From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sat Aug 1 21:47:38 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA8B1723; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:47:37 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEA7BEB3E; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:47:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from waldorf.appli.se (waldorf.appli.se 194.198.196.226) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CECF7A88F; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from petra.appli.se (petra.appli.se [194.198.196.24]) by waldorf.appli.se (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06488; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199807312103.XAA06488@waldorf.appli.se> To: "Federico G. Schwindt" Cc: "John Bartoszewski" , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:36:09 -0300." <000301bdbc34$60dc1800$b9041ac8@default> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:14:45 +0200 From: Niklas Hallqvist Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I see people doing work on PCMCIA. That is a good thing(tm), but beware.. We are going to switch the framework to one based on NetBSD's as it is better designed. However it lacks some functionality which we have in the current code (mainly detach/reattach and the bus devices to control pcmcia itself). I have been working on their framework for a flashcard application for a customer a few months back and have code working for that, for OpenBSD. However, I never found the time to finish off getting other drivers converted, mainly com and ep. If someone just wants my code and want to port over the devices, I will send them what I have. I am up-to-here in other work with short deadline, and cannot fight PCMCIA right now. Niklas From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sat Aug 1 21:47:49 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEAA278D4; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:47:49 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEA9B7A00; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:47:46 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu 141.211.92.141) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CECFAA0BC; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.167] by citi.umich.edu for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org with SMTP; Fri, 31 Jul 98 17:07:37 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:07:36 -0400 Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface In-Reply-To: "Federico G. Schwindt", Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:36:09 -0300 Message-Id: <19980731210801.CECFAA0BC@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk One reason we switched from NetBSD to Open was for the pc-card support. But not being able to turn devices back on after turning them off is a major problem. Since we switched, NetBSD has added working pc-card support. Is anyone working on porting the new NetBSD pc-card stuff to Open? From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Aug 3 01:42:05 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CF2ED38F8; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:42:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CF2D58556; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:41:57 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu 141.211.92.141) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CF2C20E04; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from citi.umich.edu [141.211.170.97] by citi.umich.edu for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org with SMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 98 01:27:15 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 01:27:11 -0400 Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: getting OpenBSD to give me an interface In-Reply-To: Niklas Hallqvist, Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:14:45 +0200 Message-Id: <19980803052801.CF2C20E04@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk However it lacks some functionality which we have in the current code (mainly detach/reattach and the bus devices to control pcmcia itself). Our current code does not do detach/reattach as far as I know. The code is there but it doesn't work. Does it work for you? Besides which, I don't see the advantage. I suppose it would be useful if you had two different cards that used the same resource (port or irq). I don't usually run out of bus resources on my pc-card equipped machines. Being able to turn devices on and off is far more important to me. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Aug 4 13:41:23 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE528E92E; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:41:22 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE50E3EB9; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:41:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (netra.olimpo.com.br 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE47A6AD8; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (tscuy06-ppp6.starnet.net.ar [200.26.4.174]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA09398; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:35:43 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <001a01bdbfcd$abfe1bc0$ae041ac8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: , "Theo de Raadt" Cc: Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: Blackhat, defcon, and other things Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:31:03 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk >Numerous mentions of OpenBSD happened at both conferences -- >especially at DEFCON. The word seems to be getting out that our >security auditing process is having success, and also that OpenBSD is >a reliable and useful system. Tons of laptops at the conference were >running OpenBSD (word on the street: it is time for us to fix pcmcia!) > Well, if nobody else is working on this I'd like to try to port the pcmcia code from NetBSD, adding some useful things from the OpenBSD code. After that, it'd be great to start with the FreeBSD's PAO code. Anyone? Federico Schwindt.- -- Soon you will meet the dark side of OpenBSD. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Aug 4 14:01:38 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE56A3BCE; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:01:37 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE4A435E4; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:01:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from natasha.wolfram.com (natasha.wolfram.com 140.177.4.77) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE57D19A7; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from natasha.wolfram.com (weingart@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by natasha.wolfram.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04673; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:47:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Federico G. Schwindt" Cc: misc@openbsd.org, "Theo de Raadt" , openbsd-mobile@monkey.org, niklas@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: Blackhat, defcon, and other things In-Reply-To: Message from "Federico G. Schwindt" of "Tue, 04 Aug 1998 14:31:03 -0300." <001a01bdbfcd$abfe1bc0$ae041ac8@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 12:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: <18644.902252857@natasha.wolfram.com> From: Tobias Weingartner Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk On Tuesday, August 4, "Federico G. Schwindt" wrote: > >Numerous mentions of OpenBSD happened at both conferences -- > >especially at DEFCON. The word seems to be getting out that our > >security auditing process is having success, and also that OpenBSD is > >a reliable and useful system. Tons of laptops at the conference were > >running OpenBSD (word on the street: it is time for us to fix pcmcia!) > > > > > Well, if nobody else is working on this I'd like to try to port the pcmcia > code > from NetBSD, adding some useful things from the OpenBSD code. > After that, it'd be great to start with the FreeBSD's PAO code. > Anyone? Talk to niklas@openbsd.org, he was working on some pcmcia code at one point. He might still have some things in his tree, or some thoughts on the subject. He's a busy person though, so I don't know how much he can help. --Toby. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Aug 4 17:29:05 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE43DBBE2; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:29:04 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE41AF1CA; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:29:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from ignart.creep.net (ignart.creep.net 208.217.179.11) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE47ED9B3; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfr.net (macallan.creep.net [208.217.179.12]) by ignart.creep.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07507; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:16:25 -0400 Message-ID: <35C75E4D.1FD5429D@nfr.net> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 15:17:33 -0400 From: Andrew Lambeth X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Federico G. Schwindt" Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Re: Blackhat, defcon, and other things References: <001a01bdbfcd$abfe1bc0$ae041ac8@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Federico G. Schwindt wrote: > > Well, if nobody else is working on this I'd like to try to port the pcmcia > code > from NetBSD, adding some useful things from the OpenBSD code. > After that, it'd be great to start with the FreeBSD's PAO code. > Anyone? > I was going to give this a shot as well. Niklas Hallqvist had mentioned that he had already done work on porting the NetBSD PCMCIA framework, but didn't have time to finish it up right now. I mailed him to see if I could get a copy of what he's got so far but haven't heard back from him yet. It sounds as if he's pretty swamped with other stuff right now. Anyway, I'm interested in working on it. -- Andrew Lambeth - Software Engineer, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Aug 4 20:47:32 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA69B9AF; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:47:31 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEA196B2D; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:47:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu 141.211.92.141) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE47030F0; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.167] by citi.umich.edu for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 98 18:58:39 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:58:38 -0400 Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D Message-Id: <19980804225901.CE47030F0@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I've seen several reports that the 3c589D pc-card ethernet adaptor doesn't work. I'm guessing that it uses the "Parallel Tasking II" chip, like the 3c905B. The 3com web site of course has no technical content whatsoever. Anyone know if NetBSD has a driver that works with the 3c905B? If so, it shouldn't be hard to get 3c905B and 3c589D support in to OpenBSD. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Tue Aug 4 21:09:29 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA752137; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:09:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEA64DCB6; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:09:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu 141.211.164.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE9CC764B; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA01216; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808050058.UAA01216@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: Jim Rees Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:58:38 EDT." <19980804225901.CE47030F0@naughty.monkey.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 20:58:02 -0400 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk > From: Jim Rees > I've seen several reports that the 3c589D pc-card ethernet adaptor doesn't > work. I'm guessing that it uses the "Parallel Tasking II" chip, like the > 3c905B. The 3com web site of course has no technical content whatsoever. Maybe it doesn't work correctly, or doesn't work correctly, *now*, but I had the 589D card for awhile, and it worked just dandy. It was a friend's (shafferz@umich.edu) card, and he uses it in Open, as well. Evan From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 5 05:25:58 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE9187664; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 04:25:58 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE8B80520; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 04:25:56 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from bconnex.net (bconnex.net 205.189.200.9) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEAD6710D; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from DarwinSys.Com (pro1-143.barrie.connex.net [205.189.200.143]) by bconnex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA28056; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by DarwinSys.Com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA00335; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:02:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:02:54 -0400 From: ian@darwinsys.com (Ian F. Darwin) Message-Id: <199808050002.UAA00335@DarwinSys.Com> To: evan.cordes@umich.edu, rees@umich.edu Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I too have a 3c589D that works great. However getting OB to find it at boot was some work since the PCI->PCMCIA bridge in my Dell isn't recognized, so I had to hard-code its address as being on the ISA bus (there are some notes in the 2.3 i386 install notes as a result). Ian From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 5 15:35:41 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE811C7A7; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:35:41 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE9AD7430; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:35:32 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from rogue.river.com (rogue.river.com 206.168.172.14) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE9923599; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from rogue.river.com (rogue.river.com [206.168.172.14]) by rogue.river.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA16691 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 06:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199808050058.UAA01216@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:58:38 EDT." <19980804225901.CE47030F0@naughty.monkey.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:32:06 -0600 To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org From: "Richard Johnson" Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk At 18:58 -0600 on 8/4/98, evan.cordes@umich.edu wrote: > > From: Jim Rees > > > I've seen several reports that the 3c589D pc-card ethernet adaptor doesn't > > work. I'm guessing that it uses the "Parallel Tasking II" chip, like the > > 3c905B. The 3com web site of course has no technical content whatsoever. > > Maybe it doesn't work correctly, or doesn't work correctly, *now*, but > I had the 589D card for awhile, and it worked just dandy. It was a > friend's (shafferz@umich.edu) card, and he uses it in Open, as well. > > Evan Near as I can tell, it broke sometime between the OpenBSD 2.3 release and the snapshot available on 14 July 1998. The 3c589Ds also worked for me with OpenBSD 2.2. The symptoms I've noticed are a freeze more often than not immediately after configuring an interface (localhost, main host address, or multicast -- three chances for the freeze during normal boot). If I manage to get the interfaces configured, the machine runs fine for at least... 10:04PM up 14 days, 7:05, 1 user, load averages: 1.09, 1.08, 1.08 I have not had a chance to examine driver change logs, reinstall the 2.3 release and test, manually remove unneeded device checks, install a later snapshot, or do any other useful software debugging. The freeze happens, however, with two different 3c589Ds, and not with the same vintage 3COM card that includes the modem (that card doesn't freeze, but it doesn't talk either). So it's either OpenBSD's problem, or my Toshiba Tecra 730XCDT has hardware problems with its pcmcia slots. Given the other problem reports I've seen, I'm hopeful I can avoid having to replace my motherboard. :-) Richard From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 5 15:41:47 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEA45A143; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:41:47 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEA31C1B7; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:41:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from nuc.berkeley.edu (fission.Nuc.Berkeley.EDU 128.32.142.23) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEA4A5334; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (slater@localhost) by nuc.berkeley.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15262 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Slater Message-Id: <199808051423.HAA15262@nuc.berkeley.edu> To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I have a toshiba 550cddt laptop and the 3c589d works just fine. However, I can't get 2 cards to work at the same time. They seem to want the same port and irq. Does anyone know a second combination that will work? When I use 0x300 and irq 10 it works correctly for the first card but then I can't find a good entry for the 2nd card. Any ideas? Steve > I've seen several reports that the 3c589D pc-card ethernet adaptor doesn't > work. I'm guessing that it uses the "Parallel Tasking II" chip, like the > 3c905B. The 3com web site of course has no technical content whatsoever. > > Anyone know if NetBSD has a driver that works with the 3c905B? If so, it > shouldn't be hard to get 3c905B and 3c589D support in to OpenBSD. > > From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 5 16:15:59 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CF3922837; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:15:59 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CF3AC3334; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:15:56 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from corinne.cpio.org (corinne.cpio.org 209.218.145.10) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE915912B; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14266 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Aug 1998 20:19:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:19:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne.cpio.org To: Steve Slater Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: 3c589D In-Reply-To: <199808051423.HAA15262@nuc.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Networks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk *wave* I think the reason we are seeing all these inconsistancies with the same card is because everyone has a different laptop, each with its own PCMCIA/CardBus chipset. From what I can gather, PCMCIA support is now a big priority with some folks and it will only be a matter of time before it is all worked out. -Jon /----------------------------------------------------------------/ / J. Joseph Max Katz jkatz@darpanet.net / / Chief Executive Officer http://www.cpio.net / / CPIO Networks (408) 569-7092 / /----------------------------------------------------------------/ On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Steve Slater wrote: :I have a toshiba 550cddt laptop and the 3c589d works just fine. : :However, I can't get 2 cards to work at the same time. They seem :to want the same port and irq. Does anyone know a second combination :that will work? When I use 0x300 and irq 10 it works correctly for :the first card but then I can't find a good entry for the 2nd card. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Aug 6 13:10:48 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CED40C3B6; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:10:48 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CED3A577A; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:10:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from mail.syn.com.au (mail.syn.COM.AU 202.135.165.66) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE4133280; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from spy.net (dhcp114.syn.COM.AU [202.135.165.114]) by mail.syn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06484; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:47:56 +1000 Message-ID: <35C91AA7.8E16785E@spy.net> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 12:53:28 +1000 From: Neal Wise X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Cc: dustin@spy.net Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: OBSD on an IBM Thinkpad 380ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Just wanted to report on the IBM thinkpad 380ED... first of all I have a Xircom 10m/33.6 (i think it's called a CEM-33BT AU [AU 'cos i'm in .au now]) which doesn't work. I'm sure you know that since I've heard that there's been some discussion of this stupid card as far as porting the linux driver for it since it's supported there now (I looked into that too and decided forget it). I'm buying a 3c589D and a megahertz 56k (my SPY co-conspirator dustin@spy.net says his works). Anyway... onto the stinkpad... my 380ED runs fine. I haven't compiled sound support yet but I expect that to work (it calls itself a Crystal PnP in windows... i suspect it's a SB* compat or something reasonably standard), my atapi cd works dandy as do my built in com ports. The ugly part of the 380ED is that the graphics chip is a NeoMagic MagicGraph 128ZV and that the display does some kind of weird resizing to push 640x480 to full screen or with the 800x600. I'm not really sure about that one... I have a nice bright display on it and I'd like to get it working under X. I found some guy who's been fiddling the the SVGA XF86 server to make it work and people on various free OS' have had success with it (I just need to take the time to try a little more). Apparently his hacks have been incorporated into something that Red Hat is putting in their rpm's as well. http://www.mnsinc.com/js/Neomagic.html To get around the display resizing weirdness I say some .c stuff on a few "linux on thinkpads" sites that seems to force the display to resize and to switch back. I don't want to try that except as a last resort though... In any case the base OS installs on my machine and recognizes what's there. If I have the Xircom card in it freezes on boot up though after it recognizes the pc card controller and then starts probing slots. The card works fine under windows but since I have two slots I might as well get two good cards that I know work. I ran FreeBSD on my thinkpad 365x at my last job and it worked ok with some simple modems and the IBM ethernet II cards... I'd just rather run OpenBSD :-). Feel free to put me down for the TP300 series as we have a lot of 'em at my current job. neal w ___________ d neal wise - nwise@spy.net SPY internetworking - will network for food http://www.spy.net From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Aug 13 10:49:05 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEEF045AD; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:49:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEBCE702A; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:49:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from netra.olimpo.com.br (netra.olimpo.com.br 200.240.17.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CF0B2776F; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (tscuy06-ppp55.starnet.net.ar [200.26.4.223]) by netra.olimpo.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA08664; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 01:14:27 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <008601bdc670$d5e17000$df041ac8@default> From: "Federico G. Schwindt" To: "Neal Wise" , Cc: Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: OBSD on an IBM Thinkpad 380ED Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 01:10:12 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk >Just wanted to report on the IBM thinkpad 380ED... first of all I have a >Xircom 10m/33.6 (i think it's called a CEM-33BT AU [AU 'cos i'm in .au >now]) which doesn't work. I'm sure you know that since I've heard that >there's been some discussion of this stupid card as far as porting the >linux driver for it since it's supported there now (I looked into that >too and decided forget it). I'm buying a 3c589D and a megahertz 56k (my >SPY co-conspirator dustin@spy.net says his works). > I dont know about linux, but the *bsd systems doesn't have support for multifunction cards AFAIK (PAO included). Check the reports to see what it's currently working and what's not. Federico Schwindt.- -- Soon you will meet the dark side of OpenBSD. From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Aug 17 17:01:05 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE5934CF4; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:01:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE5060F59; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:01:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from naughty.monkey.org (localhost 127.0.0.1) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE503505D; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:00:39 -0500 (EST) To: mickey@script.9netave.com Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: floppy_apm.fs Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:00:39 -0400 From: gigantor Message-Id: <19980817210039.CE503505D@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk mickey, are the kernel mods that you used in that floppy openly available anywhere? -gus you sed: >yep, that's known thing for some laptops, w/o one i can't fix it. >another problem known is apm data segment being allocated in the low >memory (like in the [01] page), which is impossible to map w/ the >current machdep and pmap srcs, but i have an mods for that fix, which >are available for testing in ftp://cvs.openbsd.org/tmp/floppy_apm.fs >if you see that file, it's an install floppy image: >dd if=floppy_apm.fs of=/dev/rfd0a >and boot it, see if you got an apm0 device detected and record >failures, autoconfig messages, etc. >(it's not there now, the floppy will appear no sooner that friday >night ;) From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Aug 17 22:59:01 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE453D840; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:59:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE4362919; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:58:59 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from www.llamacom.com (www.llamacom.com 209.152.94.130) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE50A3758; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19534 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1998 22:21:18 -0000 Received: from www.llamacom.com (pfeilgm@209.152.94.130) by www.llamacom.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1998 22:21:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:21:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Martin Pfeil X-Sender: pfeilgm@www.llamacom.com To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Is there a Web site for this list or any other information I could include in a Wearable Computing FAQ? Please let me know. (http://technomadic.org/info/faqs/wearcomp.html) -- Greg Pfeil --- Software Engineer --- (pfeilgm@|http://)technomadic.org =====Bad Command or File Name. Good try, though.===== From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 19 15:17:45 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE58E5D6D; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE56F1A9F; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:17:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from dumpty.wonderland.org (dumpty.wonderland.org 194.205.98.200) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEA0A971A; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by dumpty.wonderland.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA00438 for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 01:05:09 +0100 (BST) From: Peter Galbavy Message-Id: <199808190005.BAA00438@dumpty.wonderland.org> Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Sony VAIO 505 stuff To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 01:05:09 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Been watching this ist for while, but I have been away from home for a couple of weeks and my archives are not quite up to date. So if any of this has already been discussed, excuse the repetition. While away, I got myself a VAIO 505 - these things are cute. But, there is always a but, a couple of things are annoying me. The first major one is that I cannot get the thing to boot off HD. It is not a simple geometry problem. I have tried all combinations of all types. On the advice of Jason Downs I have reinstalled leaving the entire first cylinder empty: ac# fdisk wd0 Disk: wd0 geometry: 524/128/63 [4225536 sectors] Offset: 0 Signatures: 0xAA55,0x0 Starting Ending #: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused 1: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused 2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused *3: A6 1 0 1 - 523 127 63 [ 8064 - 4217472] OpenBSD The MBR is loaded and run, the standard output reads: Using disk: 0 Partition: 3 (I am writing that one from memory - any typos are mine). The nothing. biosboot does not seem to be run. Enabling debugging on MBR (-DDEBUG) gives the debug characters that indicate relocate, check partition (x4), load and goto ("RLLLLBGUsing Disk..." I think). Building biosboot with all the debugging did nothing. Any offers people ? (Booting of floppy works fine - at least with the floppy23.fs image from the Aug 12th snapshot - which is where all this stuff is from). That was the first - but also APM - with APMDEBUG (and a #define DEBUG APMDEBUG line in apm.c) shows "can't map data". I remember seeing some comments on the lists, but cannot remember what to try - can someone give me a current pointer or patches ? Regards, -- Peter Galbavy Knowledge Matters Ltd http://www.knowledge.com /http://www.wonderland.org/ http://www.literature.org/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 19 15:44:35 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE8ED30B9; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:44:34 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE7205F94; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:44:33 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from mb05.swip.net (mb05.swip.net 193.12.122.209) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE48A4548; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from vi4 (dialup76-4-23.swipnet.se [130.244.76.215]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27772 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:04:17 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:57:58 +0200 (CEST) From: joppe X-Sender: mg24174@vi4.progged.com To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: heres another laptop to add to the list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2103325125-903549478=:25160" Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2103325125-903549478=:25160 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Toshiba Satelite Pro 480CDT Everything works fine, but i havent installed xfree yet, infact ive had some troubles with it. Cant get any good resolution. 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Joseph Max Katz" X-Sender: jkatz@corinne.cpio.org To: Peter Galbavy Cc: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: Sony VAIO 505 stuff In-Reply-To: <199808190005.BAA00438@dumpty.wonderland.org> Message-ID: X-Silly-Sender: Mr. Potatoe Head Organization: CPIO Networks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I'm thinking this is an issue with the Sony BIOS and that it just doesn't like the fact it is booting non-wintel stuff from the HD :) There are ways around this. These are quick/dirty and not real solutions to the problem. You *may* want to try some of the following: 1) Try installing OS-BS onto the MBR of the HD (this worked on some PC that had some problems.) It is easiest to do this from a DOS boot-disk. 2) Make a 10M DOS partition (or something quite small and unobtrusive) Have that partition be active and use "boot.exe" from FreeBSD fame to boot an OpenBSD kernel on that partition. me ---> () () <-- Gale _[]_._|]_ /^\/ | | \/^\ So what? ASCII can't do my car justice. |*|| | O | ||*| Jonathan Katz, CEO CPIO Networks, Inc. [o]| | o | |[o] (408) 569-7092 [ ] jkatz@cpio.net \_/ \---------/ \_/ http://www.cpio.net [ ] "offering OpenBSD <|=| -[58vette]- |=|> technical support, on-site Unix and |=| |=| network security services and training." From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 19 17:49:30 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE9E23590; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:49:30 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE9D57118; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:49:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from mail2.fw-sj.sony.com (mail2.fw-sj.sony.com 198.93.2.18) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE9D87F75; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com (mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com [43.134.1.111]) by mail2.fw-sj.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24531 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com id OAA05418; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arch.sel.sony.com by erty.arch.sel.sony.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA19052; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:47:25 -0700 Message-ID: <35DB46E5.1C33F538@arch.sel.sony.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:43:01 -0700 From: Gale Organization: Sony Distributed Systems Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Sony 505 Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Cheers all, Just wanted to let the (numerous?) folks who have attempted installs on Sony 505's or who may be contemplating such that I'm making some headway in finding the right contact people / documents within Sony. Because of the way Sony works, this may be a bit time-consuming. Just wanted to let everyone know that the proverbial ball has begun to roll. There may be some legal issues to deal with as well, but that hopefully won't be a problem. Gale Pedowitz [speaking for myself, not my employer :)] -- /\_/\ o Gale Pedowitz - Systems Software Engineer ( o.o ) purrr... o Sony US Research Labs - Distributed Systems Lab > ^ < o San Jose, CA - email gale@arch.sel.sony.com From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Thu Aug 20 07:26:08 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE6CE4776; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:26:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE50A4542; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:26:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com (gcsin1.gecm.com 194.128.74.2) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE506F0E6; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA19590; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:23:22 +0100 Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA22024; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:23:21 +0100 Received: from mr.geccs.gecm.com by gcschm.geccs.gecm.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #26201) id <01J0TRDA03AO00118Z@gcschm.geccs.gecm.com>; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:22:41 +0100 (BST) Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:20:55 +0100 (BST) Mr-Received: by mta SULLY.MUAS; Relayed; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:20:55 +0100 (BST) Mr-Received: by mta SULLY; Relayed; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:20:54 +0100 (BST) Mr-Received: by mta GCSCHM; Relayed; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:22:05 +0100 (BST) Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:20:55 +0100 (BST) From: David Scott +44 1383 821921 Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Installation problems To: misc@openbsd.org, openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Message-Id: <0955201220081998/A00364/SULLY/11C8A3143500*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11C8A3143500 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;0955201220081998/A00364/SULLY] Hop-Count: 2 Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk I have two PCs (1 portable, 1 desktop) running Linux that I wish to convert to OpenBSD. However, I can have failed to install OpenBSD on both of them. Some details follow (for each I have included the output of Linux's dmesg). 1) The Portable System: Texas Instruments TravelMate 4000E I can get as far as the install script on this machine provided the ethernet adapter is not plugged in (so there is nothing wrong with the floppy disk I am using). With the adapter plugged in the kernel on floppy23.fs starts to boot but part way through the machine resets. Unfortunately I want to do an FTP install, so leaving the ethernet adapter out is not an option. Is the ethernet adapter on the wrong port and IRQ? I have failed to get the PC to boot Linux with any other settings I have tried. Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pci_init: no BIOS32 detected Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 24.93 BogoMIPS Memory: 18344k/20480k available (916k kernel code, 384k reserved, 836k data) This processor honours the WP bit even when in supervisor mode. Good. Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Linux version 2.0.29 (root@darkstar) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #14 Tue Feb 11 23:13:59 CST 1997 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450 Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size hda: ST9235AG, 200MB w/32kB Cache, CHS=985/13/32 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 FDC 0 is an 8272A md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 ne.c:v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becker (becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov) NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x360: 08 00 17 02 36 b9 eth0: NE2000 found at 0x360, using IRQ 5. arcnet.c: v2.56 96/10/18 Avery Pennarun arc0: Stage 1: No ARCnet cards found. Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 JAVA Binary support v1.01 for Linux 1.3.98 (C)1996 Brian A. Lantz VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 25372k swap-space lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found. CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256). PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. PPP line discipline registered. loading device 'eth1'... ne.c:v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becker (becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov) NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x360:net_interrupt(): irq 5 for unknown device. failed to detect IRQ line. ne.c: No NE*000 card found (i/o = 0x360). Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035 IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035 2) The Desktop System: Hi-Grade Winputer Pv The kernel on floppy23.fs starts to boot but part way through the machine freezes. The final messages it prints are: rd0 fixed, 4046 blocks sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out AGAIN The SCSI controller is an ADADTEC-1542CP. In INSTALL.i386 the C and CF models are said to be supported, but the CP is not mentioned. Is this the problem? Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000f8480 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xf7ed0 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf7f00 Probing PCI hardware. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 66.76 BogoMIPS Memory: 63084k/65536k available (792k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1276k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Linux version 2.0.30 (root@darkstar) (gcc version 2.7.2.2) #7 Tue Jun 24 02:51:17 CDT 1997 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 0K size ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe800-0xe807 ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe808-0xe80f hdc: HITACHI CDR-7930, ATAPI CDROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Configuring Adaptec (SCSI-ID 7) at IO:330, IRQ 11, DMA priority 5 aha1542.c: Using extended bios translation scsi0 : Adaptec 1542 scsi : 1 host. Vendor: IBM Model: DORS-32160W Rev: WA6A Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: CONNER Model: CFP1060S 1.05GB Rev: 2035 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4226725 [2063 MB] [2.1 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2074880 [1013 MB] [1.0 GB] Partition check: sda: sda1 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 JAVA Binary support v1.01 for Linux 1.3.98 (C)1996 Brian A. Lantz VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1) lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256). PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. PPP line discipline registered. Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035 IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035 I would appreciate any help that you can give. It would be nice to have these machines join my sparc1 which is already running OpenBSD. Thanks in advance, David Scott From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Sat Aug 22 11:43:43 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE47417DE; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:43:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE456CA0B; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:43:41 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from wasabi.it.uq.edu.au (wasabi.it.uq.edu.au 130.102.192.56) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE52EC8A0; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 05:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from syncope.dl.fnarg.net.au (arcane.it.uq.edu.au [130.102.64.80]) by wasabi.it.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA19632 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:07:52 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (d@localhost) by syncope.dl.fnarg.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA09514 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:07:47 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: syncope.dl.fnarg.net.au: d owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:07:41 +1000 (EST) From: David Leonard Reply-To: david.leonard@csee.uq.edu.au To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: Fujitsu Stylistic 500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk woo hoo! I've just been given a Fujitsu Stylistic 500 to play with. Has anybody here had any experience with getting OpenBSD running on these? d -- David Leonard David.Leonard@csee.uq.edu.au Dept of Comp. Sci. and Elec. Engg _ Ph:+61 7 3207 5332 (AH) The University of Queensland |+| http://www.csee.uq.edu.au/~leonard/ QLD 4072 AUSTRALIA ~` '~ E2A24DC6446E5779D7AFC41AA04E6401 From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Wed Aug 26 11:11:55 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CEDE7DE7F; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:11:54 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CEDD115B0; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:11:52 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from power5.physnet.uni-hamburg.de (power5.physnet.uni-hamburg.de 134.100.104.13) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CEDB3667F; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from provos by power5.physnet.uni-hamburg.de with local (Exim 1.73 #5) id 0zBgwu-0002Ci-00; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:53:24 +0200 From: Niels Provos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13796.8547.402707.896608@power5.physnet.uni-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:53:23 +0200 (DFT) To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: laptop X-Mailer: VM 6.46 under 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk please add: Acer 370PCDX: Works: Y X: Y -- - PHYSnet Rechnerverbund PGP V2.6 Public key via finger or key server Niels Provos Universitaet Hamburg WWW: http://www.physnet.uni-hamburg.de/provos/ Jungiusstrasse 9 E-Mail: provos@wserver.physnet.uni-hamburg.de Germany 20355 Hamburg Tel.: +49 40 4123-2404 Fax: -6571 From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Aug 31 15:00:07 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE452F177; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:00:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE414B13D; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:00:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE41AF574; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:59:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dug Song Reply-To: Dug Song To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Cc: monkeys@monkey.org Subject: OpenBSD-mobile: help test new APM and PCMCIA code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk i've made mickey@openbsd.org's APM test floppy and fgsch@openbsd.org's new PCMCIA test kernel (from cvs.openbsd.org) available at ftp://ftp.monkey.org/pub/users/dugsong/openbsd-stuff/ please try out the new code and let them know if you see any improvements, etc. -d. --- http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ From owner-openbsd-mobile-outgoing Mon Aug 31 15:10:27 1998 Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile-outgoing@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 502) id CE455822F; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:10:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer, from userid 1001) id CE43A7BE4; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:10:25 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Received: from citi.umich.edu (citi.umich.edu 141.211.92.141) by naughty.monkey.org (VMailer) via SMTP id CE45444AD; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from citi.umich.edu [141.211.92.167] by citi.umich.edu for openbsd-mobile@monkey.org with SMTP; Mon, 31 Aug 98 15:04:03 -0400 From: Jim Rees To: openbsd-mobile@monkey.org Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:04:02 -0400 Subject: Re: OpenBSD-mobile: help test new APM and PCMCIA code In-Reply-To: Dug Song, Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:59:29 EDT Message-Id: <19980831190501.CE45444AD@naughty.monkey.org> Sender: openbsd-mobile-owner@monkey.org Precedence: bulk Do we need any new userland stuff, like apmd or pcmcia_cntrl?