Re: Create a canned 'Firewall Build' or RFHH

["Peter" <peter@easynix.com>]

Theo,
if i would live in your neighbourhood and it would contribute something
to your work, i would mowe your lawn even 2 times a week :-)))
Peter



> > But, if any of you would  rather trade insults and feel superior because
> > you are an OpenBSD guru, or becoming one.  Feel free to insult me, who
> > is not.  yet...  I'm going to try to fix an identifed problem. I'll
> > share with those who will share and help address the problem, and not
> > share with those who don't.
>
> Yes, there are some losers (and I say, non-developers) on our mailing
> who are posturing quite a bit.
>
> > I decided to go with OpenBSD because of it's reputation for keeping
> > security in mind. So far, I've seen the OpenBSD community would rather
> > keep to themselves and require everyone to have to be an expert in
> > OpenBSD to use it, then share their knowledge to create tools for those
> > who know less but have just as strong a need for security.  If that is
> > the case, I'll find a different place to solve this problem...
>
> I agree with you, but you have made a mistake.
>
> We provide more network security tools than any other vendor.
> We document them very well on the system.
>
> The internet is complicated.
> Firewalling is not easy.
>
> Noone out there provides more than us.
>
> So you should stop flaming us.  There are largely unsolved problems in
> making filtering easier.  Turnkey you are not going to find.  Noone
> has turnkey, and anyone who is selling you turnkey is selling you
> a hole.
>
> To be honest, your mistake is even more basic.  You've forgotten who
> you are talking to.  We develop what we need, for fun, in our own
> time.  If you are not a person who matches our needs, of course you
> are going to be dissapointed.  Your assumption is that we do this for
> people like you.  Why?  Are you yourself really that altruistic?  I'm
> pretty busy working on code... and various distraction drag me away
> all the time... I was looking for someone to mow my lawn during the
> summer... so I could write more code.  Are you my man, Mr. Lawnmower
> Man?  Sorry, but noone is as altruistic as you believe them to be.
> Hah.  If you think they are, I think you are going to be for quite a
> long search, or worse, you may discover that even vendors will not
> give you this for dollars.