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For those that believe things could be improved (an example would be
individuals sensitive to "signal-to-noise" ratio) , I submit this
message. Hopefully this will help a resolve a couple of things so we can
A few options that I see are listed below. Others have been suggested
and I'm sure more can be solicited besides the ones sure to be
My top _suggestions_ are:
The official website contain more "getting started" links.
I have since found a bunch that would have helped me.
The newbie list be identified/supported by the official site
with clear language directing "recent adopters" there.
Newbies@ post a FAQ 'update' regularly with links to resources.
Refine misc@ description on official website i.e.:
"Detailed questions and informed answers. For experienced
sysadmins, researched questions only. (and maybe users referred
by the newbies@ list). Post only after reading the FAQ etc.
Abusers will be reprimanded, removed or black-listed."
Note: I'm sure some would like me to be on that list ;-)
Poorly formed questions be firmly but politely re-directed
i.e. "Unsuitable question for misc@ please RTFM then re-post
a detailed question to newbies@" WITH NO EMBELISHMENTS.
This could be a form letter containing a list of links.
I would be happy to help compose this reply. List members
could then filter the form directly to Pluto.
Repeat offenders should be contacted _off_ list and
possibly blacklisted. Sorry, "Tarred and feathered"
is not a real option.
Check your bunsen at the door: "flames = spam" IMO
Adopting a "no flame zone" would be nice - a guy can dream ;-)
An FAQ-omatic form that remarkably looks like a list/faq search
form would be cool. Label it "Instant answers here" and link it
to google.com/bsd or one of the archives ;-)
A slight re-design of how the mailing list page is organized would
help re-direct some 'recent adopters'. I can already hear the
"who reads README's" comments. Save 'em, thanks.
As a group, we can easily refine a few of the issues with a couple
judicious up-stream fixes. Many in less time than it took me to write
this or to read your "informed" replies.
I'm sure others will pipe in with their opinions/suggestions too... now,
where is that ceramic-suit anyway.
Thanks for your time, interest and opinions,
PS. Like the other thread I started, it is unlikely that I will reply to
subsequent messages unless specifically asked to. I've done enough
stirring for a while.