Re: The first appearance of the 7 dwarfs! WAS Re: Patches in releases

[brian <flaubert@sour6tree.net>]

I do not care if anyone is rude or short with me, as long as
I can find the answer somehow  and keep the systems running
and secure.
I read, I search, I ask for help, I help when I can.  Eventually
the answer I need materializes.

This list and operating system stand out because the OS is the primary
concern - as long as the work is being carried forward, I can buy the
latest release CD's and upgrade to the latest snapshot, all is well.

A flame is a flame because you make it one, you let it bother you.  Realize
that
OpenBSD does not go out and recruit users.  Also realize
that there is work to be done; emotions and drama on the list will not make
the next release load any faster, fix any bugs or add any new features.
To the point, abrupt, short, rude, obnoxious - whatever description you
choose - it is something to appreciate about the project, because it
means they are not catering to anyone or anything except making
sure -current is moving forward.

brian



Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote:

> > From: Diana Eichert <deichert@wrench.com>
>
> > > But if you need to ask something about the snapshots, then you should
> > > NOT use them.
>
> > For any newbies on the list, Miod "Grumpy" Vallat was being awfully nice
> > with his comments.
>
> No, I don't think Miod was "nice." He was rude!
>
> You people brag about knowing so much and seem so annoyed when someone
> asks a general  question.
>
> I am not saying that you, Diane, are rude, but from reading the list I get
> the impression that newbie questions are dismissed as unqualified for this
> list.
>
> I can very well understand that being asked the same questions over and
> over again *is* annoying, but read over it. Sure, it is healing to vent
> your anger, but there seems too much venting.
>
> There are no stupid questions but only stupid people who do not ask
> questions!  Nobody is born knowing everything. We learn from being tought
> by others, and we learn from our mistakes we make.
>
> Coming back to Stefan's initial question: I think it would be intersting
> to know if the Snapshots include the patches.
>
> Right, Snapshots are for knowledgeable people, but how to become
> knowledgeable if you don't try out and ask. Maybe there exists a link to
> some webpage that describes what's in the Snapshots? That would suffice.
> No need to write a thesis on the Snapshots' contents and purpose.
>
> Politeness is a virtue! :)
>
> --
> CU, Niki
> *Draft beer, not people*