Re: slow ethernet

[Adam <suck@my-balls.com>]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:58:59AM -0600, eric-dated-1075869104.214bbab93fbb25@catastrophe.net wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 12:21:57 -0500, Adam proclaimed...
> 
> > That's complete bullshit.  
> 
> I see your bullshit and raise you more.
> 
> > Autonegotiation is not some magic voodoo, its
> > a simple protocol.  Every time I've seen someone complaining about
> > autoneg, its because they forced one side, and left the other auto, or
> > have a garbage device ($40 "switches", lots of cruddy wireless devices)
> > that is broken.  Broken devices does not equal broken protocol.
> 
> I've seen autonegotiate fail with Cisco 2924, 3548's, 6509's and
> 6513's using fxp *and* bge devices. The bge's are notorious for
> failing every second or third time they have to negotiate.

I've never had any autoneg problems with any of our catalysts or even
the 3com junk, using dlink, realtek, sis, fxp, em and bge.  Believe it
or not, ethernet autonegotiation is a standard protocol, and its a very
simple one at that.  If its not working, then you have something broken,
fix the broken, don't blame the protocol.

> Autoneg is completely an opinion thing ; it depends on your
> experience, hardware, and the way the solar winds are going that
> day.

No, its not.  That's the point.  That's like saying TCP/IP is completely
an opinion thing just because there are things that can be broken to
make TCP/IP stop working.  If autoneg isn't working right, something is
broken, its not just how its supposed to be, there is something wrong
that you can fix.

Adam