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Re: "3 fingers"

On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 06:24:44PM -0600, Todd C. Miller wrote:

> It allows someone to shutdown the machine w/o being superuser.
> That's bad IMNSHO.

Not always that dubious. Assume you want to run OpenBSD on a
number of run-of-the-mill PCs, with not so enlightened users.

Suppose something goes wrong, for whatever reason, and the
dummy in front of the machine decides to reboot the machine.
Now follow his reasoning:

`oh well, Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work. It must be truly crashed
in a bad way. Let's pull the plug and see what happens.'

The point is, except for VERY secure sites, once the stupid user sits
in front of a secure console, he CAN kill the machine if he
truely wants to...

and very secure sites don't allow dumb users in front of the main

Obviously, the solution is to educate users... so many of them, so
little time :->
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