Re: Easy Installs

["Majestic One" <mirror.world@usa.net>]

The answer is pretty simple and is spellt Education.

  If you get a program that is only Install program you will never 
read the ReadMe and so will never learn what the problems maybe. 
Installing a program is never just to run it and should not be.

  Compiling is a great, step by step readme's, a sample config file 
to read and understand before the program work. The iRC (ro)bot 
Eggdrop is a great example. It comes with a config file and will 
continue not to run until you have read it down to the line that says 
"You must remove this line before the bot works."

  (L)Users should not be bothered with program installation. Therefor 
a program installation should be hard, not for the dude that knows 
what he is doing and have learned the leasson of reading 
documentation.

  All this easy install just create a bucket full of crap. Such as 
Happy99, Windows bailing out because one to many bad programs where 
installed. Please don't make *nix become this.

  It has always been my opinion that install sheilds and such are 
bad. And after getting this sysadmin job I hold even harder on it. 
Example: Our company bought a new system for the finacial department. 
In the package was a M$ SQL 6.5 server. We got on the train all too 
late and had to rush order a server, ending up with a too long SCSi 
cable. The install shield kept on failing for the dude and he didn't 
even try problem solving. He was a certified SQL consultant and 
costed a shit load of money. And all he could do was keep on double 
clicking the setup.exe file for 7 hours.

  The story tells if you have a paper you can be a sysadmin. Well I 
don't think so.


/Mj1 -- Who is on this list to be the best Sysadmin he can.

p.s. I am not a BOFH. I will gladly share my knowledge but users 
should not have to worry of installing stuff they don't understand. 
d.s.

> Personally that is why Apple invented Mac OS X. Unix with a Mac interface,
> and a command line. The elitist attitude is something that just doesn't
> fly. I don't like NT for several technical reasons I wont go into. Ease of
> use is a factor for management. Unix needs to be easier to use or it wont
> survive. Linux is a wonderful thing because it is introducing more and
> more users to Unix. It has mindshare, and is gaining market share. I use
> both Linux, and BSD based OS's. Depending on the task.
> 
> 
> Elitism in Unix will be its downfall if it becomes prevalent.
>