Re: The Talk: ssh - are you nuts!?!

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Sending this to the guys who made OpenSSH, is really bad taste.

It's like me sending a mesages saying ur "talk" is useless, evil and ....

i don't think the developers like it.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 opentrax@email.com wrote:

> 
> 			SSH - are you nuts!?!
> 			by Jesus Monroy, Jr.
> 
> I'm too tired to get this out, but i promised it would
> be available, so here it is.
> 
> The Offical Part
> ----------------
> On Jan. 4, 2001, a talk entitled "ssh - are you nuts!?!"
> will be given at the SVBUG (Silicon Valley BSD User Group)
> monthly meeting by Club President Jesse Monroy, Jr.
> Details available at:
> 
> 	http://www.svbug.com/events/
> 
> 
> My part
> -------
> Today at 7:45pm (local time) this talk will start.
> People say I'm nuts, sometimes I think they are
> right. Currently, I've heard hundreds of points
> of views, read dozens of papers, and comtemplated
> solutions with vicious circles. Two days before
> Christmas I related this to my brother-in-law,
> a Havard/Yale/Cambridge MBA. His response was,
> "Builds character."; hmm.. Thanks.
> 
> Other club presidents ask me, "Are you serious
> about this?" My business partner expressed, just 
> after Christmas, "Is this worth it?"  I'll admit, 
> at times, this whole thing has been a bit crazy.
> 
> So as I've said today at 7:45pm local time, here
> in Silicon Valley, I will be speaking. 
> The title is "SSH - are you nuts!?!"
> 
> What do I mean by this? Well to get exactly what
> I mean you may:
> 
> 1) Come to the talk. Details are available at:
> 	http://www.svbug.com/events/
> 2) See my notes after the talk - posted to:
> 	http://www.svbug.com/past/
> 3) Or see the event with on-line video
>    when it's available later this year.
> 
> For those you you interested, below are selected points from my talk.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> -What I won't  be saying
> 	-SSH is evil.
> 	-SSH is useless.
> 	-SSH is a bad idea.
> 	-Authentication/Encryption is a hoax or does not work.
> 	-Public Key Encryption does not work. (I have no proof.)
> 	-I can break Public Key Encryption. (At least, not now.)
> 	-I USE SSH. (1 or 2)
> 	-I never intend to use SSH.
> 	-My systems have never been compromised.
> -My frame of reference
> -What I will be saying
> 	-Voice my personal complaints
> 	-Expose encryption/security myths
> 	-Investigate the technical specs/issues
> 	-Investigage Technical, Social, Economic, Financial Problems
> 	-Investigate attackers and attacks
> 	-Tell you where to get SSH
> 	-Showing alternatives
> -Why I'm doing this
> -My Personal Complaints
> -What people have to say
> -SSHv1 vs. SSHv2
> -SSHv2 Features
> -The SSH Specs (the problems within)
> -Authentication/Encryption - Two methods to argue
> 	-can never be broken
> 	-can always be broken
> -SSH(v2) Faults
> 	-New Technical problems it creates
> 	-Technical Problems outside of SSH control
> 	-There are common misconceptions about it's functionality
> 	-Social Problems
>         -Economic Problems
> 	-Financial Problems
> 	-Still Subject to ...
> -Who wants your data
> -What is the Man-In-The-Middle
> -Your Governments Involvement
> -What SSH programs there are
> -What alternatives you have
> 	-Start with a Strategem
> 	-Technical Prevention
> 	-Technical Counter Measures
> -Last words
> 
> 
> 
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