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Re: The Talk: ssh - are you nuts!?!
Your welcome to the come to the talk.
OpenBSD and OpenSSH people are also welcome.
I disagree with your statement.
On 4 Jan, Internet Chat wrote:
> Sending this to the guys who made OpenSSH, is really bad taste.
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> It's like me sending a mesages saying ur "talk" is useless, evil and ....
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> i don't think the developers like it.
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> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 opentrax@email.com wrote:
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>> SSH - are you nuts!?!
>> by Jesus Monroy, Jr.
>>
>> I'm too tired to get this out, but i promised it would
>> be available, so here it is.
>>
>> The Offical Part
>> ----------------
>> On Jan. 4, 2001, a talk entitled "ssh - are you nuts!?!"
>> will be given at the SVBUG (Silicon Valley BSD User Group)
>> monthly meeting by Club President Jesse Monroy, Jr.
>> Details available at:
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>> http://www.svbug.com/events/
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>> My part
>> -------
>> Today at 7:45pm (local time) this talk will start.
>> People say I'm nuts, sometimes I think they are
>> right. Currently, I've heard hundreds of points
>> of views, read dozens of papers, and comtemplated
>> solutions with vicious circles. Two days before
>> Christmas I related this to my brother-in-law,
>> a Havard/Yale/Cambridge MBA. His response was,
>> "Builds character."; hmm.. Thanks.
>>
>> Other club presidents ask me, "Are you serious
>> about this?" My business partner expressed, just
>> after Christmas, "Is this worth it?" I'll admit,
>> at times, this whole thing has been a bit crazy.
>>
>> So as I've said today at 7:45pm local time, here
>> in Silicon Valley, I will be speaking.
>> The title is "SSH - are you nuts!?!"
>>
>> What do I mean by this? Well to get exactly what
>> I mean you may:
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>> 1) Come to the talk. Details are available at:
>> http://www.svbug.com/events/
>> 2) See my notes after the talk - posted to:
>> http://www.svbug.com/past/
>> 3) Or see the event with on-line video
>> when it's available later this year.
>>
>> For those you you interested, below are selected points from my talk.
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -What I won't be saying
>> -SSH is evil.
>> -SSH is useless.
>> -SSH is a bad idea.
>> -Authentication/Encryption is a hoax or does not work.
>> -Public Key Encryption does not work. (I have no proof.)
>> -I can break Public Key Encryption. (At least, not now.)
>> -I USE SSH. (1 or 2)
>> -I never intend to use SSH.
>> -My systems have never been compromised.
>> -My frame of reference
>> -What I will be saying
>> -Voice my personal complaints
>> -Expose encryption/security myths
>> -Investigate the technical specs/issues
>> -Investigage Technical, Social, Economic, Financial Problems
>> -Investigate attackers and attacks
>> -Tell you where to get SSH
>> -Showing alternatives
>> -Why I'm doing this
>> -My Personal Complaints
>> -What people have to say
>> -SSHv1 vs. SSHv2
>> -SSHv2 Features
>> -The SSH Specs (the problems within)
>> -Authentication/Encryption - Two methods to argue
>> -can never be broken
>> -can always be broken
>> -SSH(v2) Faults
>> -New Technical problems it creates
>> -Technical Problems outside of SSH control
>> -There are common misconceptions about it's functionality
>> -Social Problems
>> -Economic Problems
>> -Financial Problems
>> -Still Subject to ...
>> -Who wants your data
>> -What is the Man-In-The-Middle
>> -Your Governments Involvement
>> -What SSH programs there are
>> -What alternatives you have
>> -Start with a Strategem
>> -Technical Prevention
>> -Technical Counter Measures
>> -Last words
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