Re: OpenBSD/Errata/BUGTraq et al.

[<amanda_(_at_)_wineasy_(_dot_)_se>]

Yeah, well, some users got offended by the lifeform comment too.
 
I can't even *get* to some of my servers in one hour. Sometimes I'm on the
other side of the planet when a security issue comes up.
 
Perhaps we could take a poll. How many users want stuff like IPv6 and VLAN
in their kernel, and how many want to do remote upgrades?
 
Look at Debian. You can upgrade to a new version without even a reboot!
Alas the PC architecture is not really designed for remote users. When 
will there be a cheap PCI card with onboard ethernet, sshd and an emulated
serial port for remote console access? (cf. HP-UX LAN Console)
 
Amanda.
 
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Aaron Campbell wrote: 
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 amanda_(_at_)_wineasy_(_dot_)_se wrote:
>  
> > I think that the reason 6-month old systems are unsupported is because  
> > OpenBSD is simply not intended for "low lifeform" users. It's just a toy
> > for the developers to brag about.
>  
> Frankly, as one of these developers, this offends me. Look, given the 
> limited manpower OpenBSD has in comparison to the other larger projects, I
> think we do a pretty damn good job.
>  
> We are still #1 in security between our matured IPsec codebase, our 
> unparalelled source tree audits, OpenSSH, our Secure By Default stance,   
> and now our cryptography accelerator support (not to mention the more     
> esoteric things like being able to encrypt your swap partitions, or that  
> by playing your mp3s you're adding entropy to the random pool). We are #2 
> with respect to supported platforms. Our man pages are UNMATCHED, and we  
> will continue to improve our documentation in coming releases. Hardware   
> support? We cover about 95% of the current 10/100 NIC market, 3 out of 5  
> Gigabit chipsets, half of the hardware RAID out there, most SCSI, USB, and
> our laptop support is really starting to kick ass. Networking 
> support? IPsec, bridging, vlan, 802.11, ipf/ipnat, and a TCP/IP stack 
> that's impressive enough to be used in a new network appliance every other
> month. Yes, I think that's something to brag about.
>  
> I volunteer over 500 hours every 6 months to help develop OpenBSD. You
> can't give up 1 to upgrade a server?