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Re: OpenBSD project support idea
- To: misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
- Subject: Re: OpenBSD project support idea
- From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+obsd_(_at_)_2003_(_dot_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>
- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:30:38 -0400
- Mail-followup-to: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+obsd_(_at_)_2003_(_dot_)_snew_(_dot_)_com>, misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
- Reply-to: misc_(_at_)_openbsd_(_dot_)_org
Quoting Chris Hedemark (chris_(_at_)_yonderway_(_dot_)_com):
> On Saturday, April 19, 2003, at 08:33 AM, Alex de Joode wrote:
> Right. So put up a separate entry into the OpenBSD store for
> "Corporate Sales" and use the right terminology like "License 5 Pack"
> and "Media Kit (includes one license)".
Feel free to do it. It's Free. You can forward the money on....
It's close to fraud to the buyer, but whatever you want.
> Every time I go in front of the CTO and tell him I want to use XYZ
> software that is open source, I have to go through this whole song and
> dance about how it really is at least as good or better than that other
Well, that's your problem. I've been asked why I wasn't using some
$10k/machine monitoring package, instead I was using CMU-SNMP (pre-ucd)
and NOCOL. My answer was straighforward:
It runs on all our platforms as works better.
Q: How much will it cost us.
Nada. Free, cross platform and it doesn't suck. Three things
the "company approved" one doesn't have.
> CTO's license auditor
> needs to have BSD license explained to them 5 times before they start
Gee, I said: Here's the license, it's free, go away I have work to do.
(I got a reputation for being cranky. Good, but cranky. Strive for that).
> It would be much easier for me to go
> in and say "here is what it costs per server" and then hand the
Then you would be lying and misleading them.
I'd rather have shirts with a packing slip that said "install media" :)
> If Red Hat can get away with pricing Linux at $1,200 to corporate
> entities for something that is GPL'd, surely OpenBSD can get away with
but they don't. They "get away with" providing support and patches
and a certainty for the buyer that they won't have to upgrade to
last Tuesday's Linux every three months.
> a $50 license fee for corporate users (even though we all know it's
> strictly voluntary, and will appear on the OpenBSD.org side as a
> donation but on the corporate side as part of the standard costs of
> doing business).
So you want to disguise OpenBSD as another Rank and File bit of
software. How ironic. No food pellet for you.
> "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned
> my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him
> the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization
> should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless
> brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all
> this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to
> shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that
> killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
> -Albert Einstein
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