From: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org (ceremony-digest) To: ceremony-digest@monkey.org Subject: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Reply-To: ceremony@monkey.org Sender: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Errors-To: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Precedence: bulk ------- + Ceremony list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + See the above site for subscribing/unsubscribing and back issues. ------- ceremony-digest Wednesday, September 17 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 047 (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 (Fac33) Monaco (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS RE: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS Re: (Fac33) Monaco RE: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS (Fac33) quick question: 24 Hr PP soundtrack Re: (Fac33) quick question: 24 Hr PP soundtrack (Fac33) Re: Slow Jam? What? (Fac33) Re: Slow Jam? What? (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Re: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) Re: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) Re: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Re: (Fac33) Monaco RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) (Fac33) Natalie Curtis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Beh Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 I haven't looked at this list for quite a while, due to lack of time. But Eddie Colton is still mildly eloquent but incurably pissy. Some things never change. Matt > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:49:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eddie Colton > Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 > > God, this is so pathetic. David Bowie has a new > album out next month, > only 15 months after his last album. And New Order, > who would do well > to get their stale music out to stores before it's > completely out of > fashion, is not even popular on its own mailing > list. By the time they > put out a new record, people won't even remember > what a record is. > We'll have two-inch silver discs like in Men in > Black. "Hey, we finally > made an all-out rock album!" they'll say. "But rock > n' roll was > outlawed when the Martians took over," the world > will reply. "Huh? > What? Martians?" WAKE UP, NEW ORDER. Being old is no > excuse. Bowie's > practically a corpse. Being English, boring, or > parents are all > non-issues as well. Get out of the music business if > you don't like > making music, you lazy bastards. We don't have New > Order tattoos > because we think Barney is so cool lounging on his > porch with a beer > sitting on his gut. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Beh Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 I haven't looked at this list for quite a while, due to lack of time. But Eddie Colton is still mildly eloquent but incurably pissy. Some things never change. Matt > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:49:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eddie Colton > Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 > > God, this is so pathetic. David Bowie has a new > album out next month, > only 15 months after his last album. And New Order, > who would do well > to get their stale music out to stores before it's > completely out of > fashion, is not even popular on its own mailing > list. By the time they > put out a new record, people won't even remember > what a record is. > We'll have two-inch silver discs like in Men in > Black. "Hey, we finally > made an all-out rock album!" they'll say. "But rock > n' roll was > outlawed when the Martians took over," the world > will reply. "Huh? > What? Martians?" WAKE UP, NEW ORDER. Being old is no > excuse. Bowie's > practically a corpse. Being English, boring, or > parents are all > non-issues as well. Get out of the music business if > you don't like > making music, you lazy bastards. We don't have New > Order tattoos > because we think Barney is so cool lounging on his > porch with a beer > sitting on his gut. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:10:47 -0400 From: "Gordon" Subject: (Fac33) Monaco Does anyone think it would be worth my while to purchase the 2nd MONACO CD with I GOT A FEELING? Just curious before placing the order. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 22:12:02 -0400 From: "Gordon" Subject: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS I was curious about the above b-side, whether it was an instrumental tracks or vocals? Is it worth getting the CD single for this track? I love about 2/3 of the GET READY and thought I might get this single for the above song. I also saw a recent Japan Ep of CRYSTAL with some live songs from 98 that caught my attention namely, TRUE FAITH, ATMOSPHERE and TEMPTATION. Has anyone heard these versions? Thank you Electronically yours Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 06:47:41 -0500 From: "Ivarsson, Torbjorn (T)" Subject: RE: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon [mailto:icehouse@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:12 PM > > I was curious about the above b-side, whether it was an > instrumental tracks > or vocals? Is it worth getting the CD single for this track? Yes, yes, yes. BCD is a wonderful track that everyone simply must have in their collection. It's has an eerie retro-feeling to it with haunting vocals. Brilliant. > I also saw a recent Japan Ep of CRYSTAL with some live songs > from 98 that > caught my attention namely, TRUE FAITH, ATMOSPHERE and > TEMPTATION. Has anyone heard these versions? Yes. I can't remember of the top of my head if there's anything special with them. I believe you can find all of them elsewhere just as easily. The live-gurus can probably fill in the details... T. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 13:49:12 +0000 From: "Bernard Alexander" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Monaco i like it. im sure many dont, nice bass lines, bit cheesy in places. its upto you. >From: "Gordon" >To: >Subject: (Fac33) Monaco >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:10:47 -0400 > >Does anyone think it would be worth my while to purchase the 2nd MONACO CD >with I GOT A FEELING? > >Just curious before placing the order. Any thoughts would be appreciated. > >Regards >Gordon > > >------- >+ Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ >+ To talk to a person, send mail to . _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:21:16 +0100 From: Brian McGee Subject: RE: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS The live tracks are audio taken from the Reading DVD. Behind Closed Doors is excellent, and does include vocals. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon [mailto:icehouse@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: 04 September 2003 03:12 > To: ceremony@monkey.org > Subject: (Fac33) CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS > > > I was curious about the above b-side, whether it was an > instrumental tracks > or vocals? Is it worth getting the CD single for this track? > > I love about 2/3 of the GET READY and thought I might get > this single for > the above song. > > I also saw a recent Japan Ep of CRYSTAL with some live songs > from 98 that > caught my attention namely, TRUE FAITH, ATMOSPHERE and > TEMPTATION. Has > anyone heard these versions? > > Thank you > Electronically yours > Gordon > > > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:55:36 -0400 From: "michael roehr" Subject: (Fac33) quick question: 24 Hr PP soundtrack which version of Temptation is on it? thanks, mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:57:44 -0500 From: "Daniel McCarthy" Subject: Re: (Fac33) quick question: 24 Hr PP soundtrack An edit of the 1987 Substance version. It clocks in somewhere over 5 minutes. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael roehr" > which version of Temptation is on it? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Eddie Colton Subject: (Fac33) Re: Slow Jam? What? > Finally I bought the Revenge albums. I was not impressed. > Does anyone really like these records? I don't have the EP, but the LP is by no means impressive or even memorable. All of the NO side projects are just... weird. The members are coherent together, but when they separate it's like taking a chapter out of a sci-fi novel and selling it as a complete book. It's kind of intriguing and makes you want to read more, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense on its own. > On that note, I was pumped as hell for Twisted Tenderness to come > out. But when it did, I thought it was crap too...except for the > title track and "make it happen". I like all the Electronic albums, but as I said, they're very odd. Listening to them is not like listening to New Order. They all have this askew, David Lynch, something's-not-right feel to them. Certainly they have their mainstream moments, but overall they're from a bizarre perspective. Get Ready isn't quite back on track, however. It's like... an onramp to a major highway. You remember where you were and you can kind of see where you're going, but there's nothing much there except a feeling of anticipation as you move forward. The end of the album is like getting into a wreck before you hit the freeway and having to go the hospital and undergo months of physical therapy and you don't even remember where you were going in the first place. Which makes me want to send New Order a care package. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Dignam Subject: (Fac33) Re: Slow Jam? What? Thanks Eddie! I haven't laughed out loud on the list in ages! That's a great description of Get Ready - you should do this for a living... AtB Mark ramsesblue@yahoo.com - --- Eddie Colton wrote: > Get Ready isn't quite back on track, however. It's > like... an onramp to > a major highway. You remember where you were and you > can kind of see > where you're going, but there's nothing much there > except a feeling of > anticipation as you move forward. The end of the > album is like getting > into a wreck before you hit the freeway and having > to go the hospital > and undergo months of physical therapy and you don't > even remember > where you were going in the first place. Which makes > me want to send > New Order a care package. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:26:47 +0200 From: "PinkRabbit" Subject: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Could it be the original one (without Gillian) ? thx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 19:35:29 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Nope, we've recently had this discussion on neworderonline: Without Gillian, runout groove =3D "WATCHING LOVE GROW - FOREVER" (Time: = 4:32) - - never released on CD - yet... With Gillian, runout groove =3D "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNNERVE ME" (Time: = 4:22) - on Substance, International, and Retro There are two covers - green or blue/white, but the only way to find out which version is which is from either the runout groove, or using a stopwatch! HTH, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org=20 > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of PinkRabbit >=20 > Could it be the original one (without Gillian) ? >=20 > thx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 15:04:23 EDT From: GaoBest@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Oh this is confusing. So the color of the cover has nothing to do with the inscription? My green cover has the "without Gillian" pressing, and my blue/white has the "withi Gillian" pressing. x Mike In a message dated 9/7/03 11:38:04 AM, nickwking@ntlworld.com writes: << Without Gillian, runout groove = "WATCHING LOVE GROW - FOREVER" (Time: 4:32) - - never released on CD - yet... With Gillian, runout groove = "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNNERVE ME" (Time: 4:22) - on Substance, International, and Retro There are two covers - green or blue/white, but the only way to find out which version is which is from either the runout groove, or using a stopwatch! >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:08:41 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. That's the theory (i.e. Green=3Dwithout Gillian, Blue/White=3Dwith = Gillian)! ;-> However, in practice, you can find a 'with Gillian' version in the Green sleeve (lots of unused Green sleeves, apparently), and likewise you can = find the 'without Gillian' version in the Blue/White sleeve. So, the only way of truly determining the version you've got is either = the runout groove or by timing the length of the song! L8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org=20 > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of GaoBest@aol.com >=20 >=20 > Oh this is confusing. So the color of the cover has nothing=20 > to do with the=20 > inscription? My green cover has the "without Gillian"=20 > pressing, and my=20 > blue/white has the "withi Gillian" pressing. >=20 > x > Mike >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 9/7/03 11:38:04 AM, nickwking@ntlworld.com writes: >=20 > << Without Gillian, runout groove =3D "WATCHING LOVE GROW -=20 > FOREVER" (Time:=20 > 4:32) > - never released on CD - yet... > With Gillian, runout groove =3D "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNNERVE ME"=20 > (Time: 4:22) - > on Substance, International, and Retro >=20 > There are two covers - green or blue/white, but the only way=20 > to find out > which version is which is from either the runout groove, or using a > stopwatch! > >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: robert dawson Subject: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) Okay, so Gordon and I are now both wondering if Sabotage is any good? It's only available on the 60mph single, right? By chance is there an MP3 available anywhere for download before I order the single? cheers, bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:57:05 -0700 (PDT) From: dj dust Subject: Re: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) Sabotage is beautiful. Just buy it. - --- robert dawson wrote: > Okay, so Gordon and I are now both wondering if > Sabotage is any good? It's only available on the > 60mph single, right? > > By chance is there an MP3 available anywhere for > download before I order the single? > > cheers, > > bob > > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . ===== homepage: http://www.djdust.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:40:40 +0200 From: "PinkRabbit" Subject: Re: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. and what about the brown one from Italy clocking at 4'32 (runout groove empty) ? Nope, we've recently had this discussion on neworderonline: Without Gillian, runout groove = "WATCHING LOVE GROW - FOREVER" (Time: 4:32) - - never released on CD - yet... With Gillian, runout groove = "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNNERVE ME" (Time: 4:22) - on Substance, International, and Retro There are two covers - green or blue/white, but the only way to find out which version is which is from either the runout groove, or using a stopwatch! HTH, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of PinkRabbit > > Could it be the original one (without Gillian) ? > > thx - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 23:42:21 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (Fac33) ceremony 12" ==> "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNERVE ME" INSCRIPION IN THE RUNOUT GROOVE. Pre-Gillian (4:32), so in this case only a stopwatch would work! (Quite how that could be determined from inside a record sho, without playing it, I don't know)! L8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of PinkRabbit > > > and what about the brown one from Italy clocking at 4'32 > (runout groove > empty) ? > > > > > > > Nope, we've recently had this discussion on neworderonline: > > Without Gillian, runout groove = "WATCHING LOVE GROW - > FOREVER" (Time: 4:32) > - never released on CD - yet... > With Gillian, runout groove = "THIS IS WHY EVENTS UNNERVE ME" > (Time: 4:22) - > on Substance, International, and Retro > > There are two covers - green or blue/white, but the only way > to find out > which version is which is from either the runout groove, or using a > stopwatch! > > HTH, > > > Nick ;-) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of PinkRabbit > > > > Could it be the original one (without Gillian) ? > > > > thx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 18:53:52 -0400 From: "P SAVILLE" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Monaco Not as good as their first cd. But I listened to it recently though....and quite enjoyed it. I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10. Nirav >From: "Bernard Alexander" >To: ceremony@monkey.org >Subject: Re: (Fac33) Monaco >Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 13:49:12 +0000 > > >i like it. im sure many dont, nice bass lines, bit cheesy in places. >its upto you. > > > >>From: "Gordon" >>To: >>Subject: (Fac33) Monaco >>Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:10:47 -0400 >> >>Does anyone think it would be worth my while to purchase the 2nd MONACO CD >>with I GOT A FEELING? >> >>Just curious before placing the order. Any thoughts would be appreciated. >> >>Regards >>Gordon >> >> >>------- >>+ Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ >>+ To talk to a person, send mail to . > >_________________________________________________________________ >Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >------- >+ Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ >+ To talk to a person, send mail to . _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0500 From: "chris dela rosa" Subject: RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) that doesn't help. if anyone does have an mp3 available for predetermining purposes, id like to check it out, too. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org]On > Behalf Of dj dust > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 2:57 PM > To: ceremony@monkey.org > Subject: Re: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED > DOORS) > > > Sabotage is beautiful. Just buy it. > > > --- robert dawson wrote: > > Okay, so Gordon and I are now both wondering if > > Sabotage is any good? It's only available on the > > 60mph single, right? > > > > By chance is there an MP3 available anywhere for > > download before I order the single? > > > > cheers, > > > > bob > > > > ------- > > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > > + To talk to a person, send mail to > . > > > ===== > homepage: http://www.djdust.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:16:55 -0700 (PDT) From: dj dust Subject: RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) pardon me. - --- chris dela rosa wrote: > that doesn't help. > > if anyone does have an mp3 available for > predetermining purposes, id like to > check it out, too. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org]On > > Behalf Of dj dust > > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 2:57 PM > > To: ceremony@monkey.org > > Subject: Re: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: > CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED > > DOORS) > > > > > > Sabotage is beautiful. Just buy it. > > > > > > --- robert dawson > wrote: > > > Okay, so Gordon and I are now both wondering if > > > Sabotage is any good? It's only available on > the > > > 60mph single, right? > > > > > > By chance is there an MP3 available anywhere for > > > download before I order the single? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > bob > > > > > > ------- > > > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > > > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > > > + To talk to a person, send mail to > > . > > > > > > ===== > > homepage: http://www.djdust.com > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > ------- > > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > > + To talk to a person, send mail to > . > > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: > http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . ===== homepage: http://www.djdust.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 00:33:02 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (Fac33) What about Sabotage? (was: CRYSTAL/ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS) There's an MP3 clip at http://www.neworderonline.com/song.asp?song_id=254 That should give you an idea... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of dj dust > > > pardon me. > > > --- chris dela rosa wrote: > > that doesn't help. > > > > if anyone does have an mp3 available for > > predetermining purposes, id like to > > check it out, too. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org > > [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org]On > > > Behalf Of dj dust > > > > > > > > > Sabotage is beautiful. Just buy it. > > > > > > > > > --- robert dawson > > wrote: > > > > Okay, so Gordon and I are now both wondering if > > > > Sabotage is any good? It's only available on > > the > > > > 60mph single, right? > > > > > > > > By chance is there an MP3 available anywhere for > > > > download before I order the single? > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:30:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Herskowitz Subject: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis Does anyone on the listserve know Natalie? Or what she does? Does Debbie still live in Manchester? Has she kept in contact with the other members of the band? Jeremy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of ceremony-digest V2003 #47 ******************************** ------- + For information on subscribing/unsubscribing and the digest archives, + see the Ceremony web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to .