From: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org (ceremony-digest) To: ceremony-digest@monkey.org Subject: ceremony-digest V2003 #48 Reply-To: ceremony@monkey.org Sender: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Errors-To: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Precedence: bulk ------- + Ceremony list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + See the above site for subscribing/unsubscribing and back issues. ------- ceremony-digest Saturday, September 20 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 048 Re: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis Re: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 (Fac33) Echo RE: (Fac33) Echo RE: (Fac33) Echo (Fac33) Beach Bugging RE: (Fac33) Beach Bugging (Fac33) String Tribute [the@new-order.net: Re: (Fac33) Beach Bugging] (Fac33) My bands gig, london (junk... apologies now.) Re: (Fac33) Beach Bugging SV: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at ebay RE: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay Re: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay Re: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 (Fac33) MTO Re: (Fac33) MTO [none] Re: (Fac33) String Tribute RE: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:59:48 EDT From: Cynflux@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis << Does anyone on the listserve know Natalie? Or what she does? Does Debbie still live in Manchester? Has she kept in contact with the other members of the band? >> it would be interesting to see what she looks like now. does she look more like her father or her mother? kind regards ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:04:47 +0100 From: "Mark Reed" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis She looks very much like her dad - those blue eyes, that distinctive bone structure, but with long hair. Quite spooky really. She's still in touch with the band, went to see them at The Apollo in 98 so I'm told. Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: (Fac33) Natalie Curtis << Does anyone on the listserve know Natalie? Or what she does? Does Debbie still live in Manchester? Has she kept in contact with the other members of the band? >> it would be interesting to see what she looks like now. does she look more like her father or her mother? kind regards - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Hardy, Joe" Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. I long for the good old days when this list was much more exciting. When Antoine/Ant1, Happy Jack, Eddie/Eddz, Ally and that Irish guy whose name I can't remember now but who is like New Order's best friend (or something like that) were frequent posters. Remember when there were huge debates over the Razormaid mixes and New Order v. The Cure (sorry to bring that one up again ;-)? Ah, to be young again. Of course I personally have posted to the list only once or twice, so perhaps it's my own fault that the list just doesn't seem as vibrant. Or maybe I'm just getting old. I do appreciate the people who still post with frequency, especially mike who made me a copy of the Bay Area AreaOne show. I wish that negative one guy still posted MP3's too. Oh well. Anyway, back to New Order. I know I could find out if I looked around online, but I'm lazy. So, my question is, does New Order have a DVD collection (that I can play on my American DVD player) of its videos? Thanks. Joe the lurker Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Beh Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 I haven't looked at this list for quite a while, due to lack of time. But Eddie Colton is still mildly eloquent but incurably pissy. Some things never change. Matt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:42:29 -0700 From: "Albert Hernandez" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 On ebay I often see NewOrder story on DVD (region 1). I'm sure this is actually a VHS to DVD dub though. Of course, this is probably of no help because buying it would be stealing from NewOrder's babies. - -- Albert Hernandez >Anyway, back to New Order. I know I could find out if >I looked around online, but I'm lazy. So, my question >is, does New Order have a DVD collection (that I can >play on my American DVD player) of its videos? >Thanks. > >Joe the lurker _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:58:20 EDT From: Cynflux@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 << Anyway, back to New Order. I know I could find out if I looked around online, but I'm lazy. So, my question is, does New Order have a DVD collection (that I can play on my American DVD player) of its videos? >> a guy on eBay sells one every so often. there is always that bonus CD/DVD that came with International, but the quality is not good and it's not much of a collection with only 3-4 videos. << I wish that negative one guy still posted MP3's too. Oh well. >> maybe if you all would have stopped bitching and moaning, you could still be enjoying them. << Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. >> the only time he posts is when he is pissed off at the world. i find his recent posts to be too emotional and unfocused. his posts were much more focused and less emotional in the good old days. << Remember when there were huge debates over the Razormaid mixes and New Order v. The Cure (sorry to bring that one up again ;-)? Ah, to be young again. >> remember when there were 20 new order sites and they were all really really bad? << I long for the good old days when this list was much more exciting. When Antoine/Ant1, Happy Jack, Eddie/Eddz, Ally and that Irish guy whose name I can't remember now but who is like New Order's best friend (or something like that) were frequent posters. >> N21 even. sorry to say, but i fear those days are long gone. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:17:02 EDT From: Cynflux@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 << Of course, this is probably of no help because buying it would be stealing from NewOrder's babies. >> you work for David Sultan? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:53:58 +0100 From: "Duddridge Lee" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 << Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. >> I rarely agree with EC but enjoy reading his posts as they usually spark a reaction. (Much more so in those halcyon day of the list.) His latest=20 rant was a touch ungrateful but I'll defend his right to express his misery to the last. - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:05:28 -0500 From: "Ivarsson, Torbjorn (T)" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 > Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. I long for the > good old days when this list was much more exciting. > When Antoine/Ant1, Happy Jack, Eddie/Eddz, Ally and > that Irish guy whose name I can't remember now but who > is like New Order's best friend (or something like > that) were frequent posters. Remember when there were > huge debates over the Razormaid mixes and New Order v. > The Cure (sorry to bring that one up again ;-)? Ah, > to be young again. I think many people have turned to the on-line forums available (notably neworderonline.com, and to some degree worldinmotion.net). Though the atmosphere there is mostly friendly. No good ol' flamewars anymore... :( I used to be a anti-forum kind of guy, but lately my opinion has changed. The only problem is that you may have people doing their private chit-chat in some topics, so there is a lot of "noise" (especially in fan-based forums). My theory is that they just want to increase their posting-ratio. If you want to see/read some really spaced out ranting, check out Usenet's alt.music.new-order (or is it alt.music.neworder? I can never remember). There are still some people who love to hear their own words... And whatever you do, do not ever cross-post between the New Order and Depeche Mode groups, asking people which group is the better one... > Of course I personally have posted to the list only > once or twice, so perhaps it's my own fault that the > list just doesn't seem as vibrant. It comes and goes, though lately it's been very quiet. I think that by now, most people here have most of the facts, and there is no need to discuss lyrics etc. anymore. Check out the archives from mid- to late-90s if you want some interesting postings. > Anyway, back to New Order. I know I could find out if > I looked around online, but I'm lazy. So, my question > is, does New Order have a DVD collection (that I can > play on my American DVD player) of its videos? As other people have said: officially no, bootleg yes. Apparently the quality of the bootleg ones are pretty decent (rips from the LDs). I just refuse to buy blatantly copied material. Hopefully NO's label will realize that there is a demand for a Best Of New Order Videos on DVD. Please. Please. Please. They've got two recent live videos, why not the regular videos? Just adding my fuel to the dying fire... T. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:16:49 +0100 From: Brian McGee Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivarsson, Torbjorn (T) [mailto:tivarsson@lucent.com] > Sent: 18 September 2003 14:05 > To: ceremony@monkey.org > Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 > As other people have said: officially no, bootleg yes. > Apparently the quality of the bootleg ones are pretty decent > (rips from the LDs). I just refuse to buy blatantly copied > material. Hopefully NO's label will realize that there is a > demand for a Best Of New Order Videos on DVD. Please. Please. > Please. They've got two recent live videos, why not the > regular videos? Don't know about anyone else, but music videos kind of die for me after one or two watches, why bother getting them on DVD? How often do you watch your VHS version? I've watched my Best of VHS tape once. But I've watched Reading and Finsbury Park several times, not to mention PFD, Taras S. etc. Do people really sit down and just watch a tape like Best of new Order? Is it just me? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:29:26 -0700 From: "Albert Hernandez" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 >Do people really sit down and just watch a tape like Best of new Order? >Is it just me? nope! i remember when the substance vhs came out in 89? 90? i must have gone through 2 vcrs pausing, rewinding, pausing again, etc. the perfect kiss video trying to figure out what equipment they were using! - -- Albert Hernandez _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:42:38 +0100 From: David Stephenson Subject: (Fac33) Echo You rang? =A9 Corporate Jack Disclaimer follows......... ********************************************************************** Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Fox Online. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently = transmitted from Fox Online, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify Fox Online by telephone on +44 (0)121 693 1424. ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:44:21 +0100 From: Brian McGee Subject: RE: (Fac33) Echo > -----Original Message----- > From: David Stephenson [mailto:dave@foxonline.co.uk] > Sent: 18 September 2003 16:43 > To: 'ceremony@monkey.org' > Subject: (Fac33) Echo >=20 >=20 > You rang? >=20 > =A9 Corporate Jack >=20 > (snip) > > If you have received this email in error please notify Fox Online by > telephone on +44 (0)121 693 1424. I'd love to........... 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If you have received this email in error please notify Fox Online by telephone on +44 (0)121 693 1424. ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:54:43 -0700 From: Sam Habash Subject: (Fac33) Beach Bugging I wonder if the track that became 'Beach Buggy', like Confusion 1987 and Temptation, was originally commissioned for Substance, and then shelved. As far as I know, it only appears on the Facd73R CD release (*not* on the FacdV73R CDV version, which according to the discography at niagara.edu, is really Blue Monday 1988 (dub). The extended 12" version is 6:52, and there's a 7" 4:17 edit, which _is_ on CD (JP 1988, Factory/ Nippon Columbia CY-4020)...why the extended version appears on the CD3 (10CY-8038) and not the CD5 is anybody's guess. I love that they sampled the "1-2-3-4" from Hurt, as well as the "W...W...W...WRL" that also appears in Confusion 1987, additional evidence that this track may have been assembled at around that time. The strange part of this mix is that shortly before the 5:00 mark, the track morphs back into the final part of The Beach, like NO grew tired of doing any more sonic manipulation on it. I guess the elements that comprised Beach Buggy, plus the original vocals, were given to John Potoker to remix. This sort of assemblage segues into the work that went into MTO (The Funky One?), which Fine Time was derived from. I actually have a bit of a soft spot for the 1988-era stuff...the samples are cute. - --Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:08:40 +0100 From: Brian McGee Subject: RE: (Fac33) Beach Bugging > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Habash [mailto:the@new-order.net] > Sent: 18 September 2003 18:55 > To: ceremony@monkey.org > Subject: (Fac33) Beach Bugging > > I wonder if the track that became 'Beach Buggy', like Confusion 1987 > and Temptation, was originally commissioned for Substance, and then > shelved. I doubt it, Beach Buggy sounds more like a piss-take, or rushed mix to fill up a single, although it's still pretty cool! > As far as I know, it only appears on the Facd73R CD release > (*not* on the FacdV73R CDV version, which according to the discography > at niagara.edu, is really Blue Monday 1988 (dub). The extended 12" > version is 6:52, and there's a 7" 4:17 edit, which _is_ on CD > (JP 1988, > Factory/ Nippon Columbia CY-4020)...why the extended version appears > on the CD3 (10CY-8038) and not the CD5 is anybody's guess. I only ever saw Blue Monday 1988 (dub) on the US promo CD that also had the 7" and 12" versions. Anyone any idea how much that promo is worth? I've a spare I'd like to sell! > The strange part of this mix is that shortly before the 5:00 mark, > the track morphs back into the final part of The Beach, like NO grew > tired of doing any more sonic manipulation on it. Wow..never noticed that one - must check it out later! > This sort of assemblage segues into the work that went into MTO > (The Funky One?), which Fine Time was derived from. Are you sure that wasn't the other way around? > I actually have a bit of a soft spot for the 1988-era stuff...the > samples are cute. Me too. Except that DMC Megamix that has a DJ saying "c-c-c-computer rhythm, of Blue Monday" during the crossfade. Pathetic! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:15:23 -0700 From: "J.W. Anthony" Subject: (Fac33) String Tribute Hi, Well, I can't complain about how quiet this list is because I haven't posted anything, either. I went to the Peter Saville Show in June. Sounds like a long time ago. I was quite impressed with the details and items like the True Faith leaves and especially the Brotherhood sheet metal. I remember seeing his other album covers and thinking, he did that one, too? Of course, I also noticed that the record collection wasn't in tip-top shape. I was thinking, if they needed album covers with no wear on the corners, I could have loaned them! But anyway, I picked up the String Tribute to New Order/Joy Division from Amazon.com. I was a little disappointed with it at first, but it's been growing on me. I love novel things. The Nau Ensemble CD was great, but I was hoping for a more literal translation, so I was looking forward to the String Tribute CD. From the CD cover/web site they write, "The ethereal yet somber essence of post-punk icons Joy Division and the melodic symmetry of synth-pop legends New Order is beautifully captured in The String Quartet Tribute to New Order and Joy Division." I would disagree, it's like The String Quartet Tribute to New Order, Joy Division and Alfred Hitchcock. The music is tense and definitely not somber nor ethereal. I was expecting something more melancholy, but the tempo was way too fast and the translation way too literal. Imagine hearing the beginning beats of Blue Monday played on a violin, because that's what you get. I think they also could have studied up on "subtlety". The beginning of Isolation would wake the dead. Throughout the CD, everything is so in-your-face, as if all the instruments wanted to be in the spotlight at the same time. That said, there are bits and pieces of each song that are very nice. The most consistent, in my opinion are Isolation and Love Vigilantes. They are my favorites. So to recap -- too fast and too loud -- not exactly what I was looking forward to in a string quartet tribute. J.W. "I thought it was funny when you missed the train" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:29:16 -0700 From: Sam Habash Subject: [the@new-order.net: Re: (Fac33) Beach Bugging] Heh, all this talk of old stuff tricked my brain into using the old list address! - ----- Forwarded message from Sam Habash ----- Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:26:42 -0700 From: Sam Habash To: Brian McGee Cc: ceremony@niagara.edu Subject: Re: (Fac33) Beach Bugging User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BLEET: lammahs r00l On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 07:08:40PM +0100, Brian McGee wrote: > > I wonder if the track that became 'Beach Buggy', like Confusion 1987 > > and Temptation, was originally commissioned for Substance, and then > > shelved. > > I doubt it, Beach Buggy sounds more like a piss-take, or rushed mix to fill > up a single, although it's still pretty cool! My postulation was based on the fact that NO are deemed lazy gits and wouldn't be bothered to do track-fillers. But why else would Beach Buggy exist, especially if there's a (perhaps superior technically, if less charming) dub mix? Confusion 1987/Temptation 1987/Beach Buggy/Touched By The Hand Of God (original) all have a similar sonic feel. > I only ever saw Blue Monday 1988 (dub) on the US promo CD that also had the > 7" and 12" versions. Anyone any idea how much that promo is worth? I've a > spare I'd like to sell! Contact me offlist :) > > The strange part of this mix is that shortly before the 5:00 mark, > > the track morphs back into the final part of The Beach, like NO grew > > tired of doing any more sonic manipulation on it. > > Wow..never noticed that one - must check it out later! Well, it sounds _like_ the final part of "The Beach" I'm not sure if it is exactly...but maybe somebody else can check. > > This sort of assemblage segues into the work that went into MTO > > (The Funky One?), which Fine Time was derived from. > > Are you sure that wasn't the other way around? I might have gotten the exact exegenesis crossed up. IIRC, MTO (aka 'Much Too Old') and Fine Time (aka 'Much Too Young') both derive from what I think was known as "The Funky One". The details are a bit hazy. I'd really, really kill to see a sessiongraphy for New Order detailing what was recorded when. It would shed some light on the quixotic way tracks were released. > > I actually have a bit of a soft spot for the 1988-era stuff...the > > samples are cute. > > Me too. Except that DMC Megamix that has a DJ saying "c-c-c-computer > rhythm, of Blue Monday" during the crossfade. Pathetic! DMC...known for their quality megamixes...not. - --Sam - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:36:32 +0000 From: "Bernard Alexander" Subject: (Fac33) My bands gig, london (junk... apologies now.) hey, my bands playing tommorrow at the Garage in London... Highbury and islington station, if anyone lives in london they will know of it. Well i was just sending this email out to you all so i can get a few of you along, hopefully. Doors are at 8pm and we are on stage at 830pm, i am the bassist in the band, so come and have a few drinks and chat about new order/jpy division.... well www.cctv.gq.nu/rocknroll.JPG is a flyer to get you in for £3.50, and there is a club after til 3am. our website with mp3s etc is www.cctv.gq.nu sorry to clog up your email with this crap, im sure many of you will be annoyed, but hey this gig is for mean fiddler promotions and we have to get asmany people as possible to this gig.... well i hope to see some of you there tommorrow, but if not, dont worry. please dont slate me for sending out this email, you know how hard it is in the music industry today. thank you for your time. Stuart :) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:00:20 EDT From: Cynflux@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fac33) Beach Bugging << Anyone any idea how much that promo is worth? >> i paid about $15 for it on eBay. << I only ever saw Blue Monday 1988 (dub) on the US promo CD that also had the 7" and 12" versions. >> blue monday 1988 (dub) is also on the canadian cd single for Blue Monday 1988. btw, this cd also has the dub version of Touched By The Hand Of God. ;-) kind regards ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:58:38 +0200 From: "Erik Myrhage" Subject: SV: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Hi, I also miss those old days. Seems like everybody including New Order themselves are getting older. I wonder if they are making any new great songs or if they are even trying. We used to get new songs on the list way before the record was finished and now I haven?t even heard a single rumour... It?s about time Bernard releases a new album... 1988-Technique, 90- Electronic, 93-Republic, 96-Raise the Pressure, 99-Twisted Tenderness, 01-Get Ready... He has released a new album every 2 or 3 years since he started making music. So we should be able to hear new music from him (and New Order since Electronic is not active anymore)soon! What do you think? Anyone heard any new rumours? Anything? /Erik - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fran: owner-ceremony@monkey.org [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org]For Hardy, Joe Skickat: den 18 september 2003 02:21 Till: ceremony@monkey.org Amne: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. I long for the good old days when this list was much more exciting. When Antoine/Ant1, Happy Jack, Eddie/Eddz, Ally and that Irish guy whose name I can't remember now but who is like New Order's best friend (or something like that) were frequent posters. Remember when there were huge debates over the Razormaid mixes and New Order v. The Cure (sorry to bring that one up again ;-)? Ah, to be young again. Of course I personally have posted to the list only once or twice, so perhaps it's my own fault that the list just doesn't seem as vibrant. Or maybe I'm just getting old. I do appreciate the people who still post with frequency, especially mike who made me a copy of the Bay Area AreaOne show. I wish that negative one guy still posted MP3's too. Oh well. Anyway, back to New Order. I know I could find out if I looked around online, but I'm lazy. So, my question is, does New Order have a DVD collection (that I can play on my American DVD player) of its videos? Thanks. Joe the lurker Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Beh Subject: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #45 I haven't looked at this list for quite a while, due to lack of time. But Eddie Colton is still mildly eloquent but incurably pissy. Some things never change. Matt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:12:04 +0100 From: David Stephenson Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 > Personally, I'm glad Eddie is back. I long for the > good old days when this list was much more exciting.=20 > When Antoine/Ant1, Happy Jack, Eddie/Eddz, Ally and I was right - I did hear someone say my name. lol... A few names I recognise (Brian, Erik, Sam) and a few I don't. Have you sorted the eagle / ego debate in my absence? ;-P =A9 HJ ********************************************************************** Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Fox Online. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently = transmitted from Fox Online, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify Fox Online by telephone on +44 (0)121 693 1424. ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:11:25 +0900 From: "marcio and makiko" Subject: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at ebay Take a view at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559505299 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:37:48 -0500 From: "Ivarsson, Torbjorn (T)" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559505299 The auction doesn't exists. T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:41:58 +0900 From: "marcio and makiko" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay I'm sorry, the auction starts at Sep-19-03, 23:30:00 (US ebay time). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559505299 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivarsson, Torbjorn (T)" To: Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: RE: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559505299 The auction doesn't exists. T. - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:34:12 -0400 From: "michael roehr" Subject: Re: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay > I'm sorry, the auction starts at Sep-19-03, 23:30:00 (US ebay time). > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559505299 hmm that item number still doesn't come up with anything, nor does a search on "new order blue monday" come up with anything more interesting than that old polish 7" and a cd-r acetate. mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Dignam Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 - --- David Stephenson wrote: > Have you sorted the eagle / ego debate in my > absence? ;-P > > © HJ Maybe that's what that eagle is doing on the front of RETRO... probably not, all the same - - should have asked Saville when I had the chance instead of trying to be a clever bastard... ("that's a good question" he said - nice man) AtB Mark Dignam ramsesblue@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew J. Lillie" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 Dare I even bother to ask: _What_ "eagle / ego debate"? - -=3DA=3D- On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Mark Dignam wrote: > --- David Stephenson wrote: > > > Have you sorted the eagle / ego debate in my > > absence? ;-P > > > > =A9 HJ > > > Maybe that's what that eagle is doing on the front of > RETRO... > > probably not, all the same > - should have asked Saville when I had the chance > instead of trying to be a clever bastard... > ("that's a good question" he said - nice man) > > AtB > Mark Dignam > ramsesblue@yahoo.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ------- > + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ > + To talk to a person, send mail to . > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:59:10 -0700 (PDT) From: happenstance Subject: RE: (Fac33) Re: ceremony-digest V2003 #47 what did you ask him so cleverly? -geoffrey > Maybe that's what that eagle is doing on the front of > RETRO... > > probably not, all the same > - should have asked Saville when I had the chance > instead of trying to be a clever bastard... > ("that's a good question" he said - nice man) > > Mark Dignam __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:12:56 +0100 From: "Al Jarvis" Subject: (Fac33) MTO > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 07:08:40PM +0100, Brian McGee wrote: > I might have gotten the exact exegenesis crossed up. IIRC, MTO > (aka 'Much Too Old') and Fine Time (aka 'Much Too Young') both I'd always understood this was actually the 'Mid Tempo One' - nothing more exotic than that? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:20:01 -0700 From: Sam Habash Subject: Re: (Fac33) MTO > I'd always understood this was actually the 'Mid Tempo One' - nothing more > exotic than that? Thanks for the info...I don't think I was making up what I said about MTO standing for 'Much Too Old'...although I could have been reporting somebody else's (mis-)intrepretion. The pitch-shifted 'you've got love technique' and some of the drum tracks also appear in 'Fine Time', and is maybe why others have connected the two tracks. But what I love most (listening to the 'Minus Mix', don't have the other mix handy) is the 303 squiggle that comes in at about 3:06. Had it come in three seconds earlier, it would have been really amusing. - --Sam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:31:26 -0400 From: "P SAVILLE" Subject: [none] Hello list, Is anyone who was able to attend Peter Saville's lecture earlier this month willing to give their review, thoughts, synopsis, recollections of the event? I'm sure there are a lot of us interested to know about it on the list. thanks N. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:21:57 -0700 From: John Frye Subject: Re: (Fac33) String Tribute Not enough legato, which is what strings are for. A little chopped sounding. I bought it hoping to use it during my wedding, but it was just awkward- was able to use Love Vigilantes though. Managed to get a lot of new order played during the reception. - -john frey On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 11:15 AM, J.W. Anthony wrote: > > > I would disagree, it's like The String Quartet Tribute to New Order, > Joy > Division and Alfred Hitchcock. The music is tense and definitely not > somber > nor ethereal. I was expecting something more melancholy, but the > tempo was > way too fast and the translation way too literal. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:05:46 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Blue Monday 1984 7" Japan Only Promo in auction at eb ay Found it - it's here... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2559505299&categor= y=3D437 15#ebayphotohosting Hmmm, if only I could win the lottery! ;-> L8rs, Nick ;-) > > I'm sorry, the auction starts at Sep-19-03, 23:30:00 (US ebay time). > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2559505299 >=20 > hmm that item number still doesn't come up with anything, nor=20 > does a search > on "new order blue monday" come up with anything more=20 > interesting than that > old polish 7" and a cd-r acetate. >=20 > mike ------------------------------ End of ceremony-digest V2003 #48 ******************************** ------- + For information on subscribing/unsubscribing and the digest archives, + see the Ceremony web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to .