From: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org (ceremony-digest) To: ceremony-digest@monkey.org Subject: ceremony-digest V2003 #57 Reply-To: ceremony@monkey.org Sender: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Errors-To: owner-ceremony-digest@monkey.org Precedence: bulk ------- + Ceremony list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + See the above site for subscribing/unsubscribing and back issues. ------- ceremony-digest Saturday, November 29 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 057 RE: (Fac33) Peter hook w/ hybrid in NY? (Fac33) [update] -> _international_2_____211103_ (Fac33) [boxset] -> _international_2__v0.4c_ (Fac33) [reply] -> [update] -> _international_2_____211103_ (Fac33) _the_new_new_order_album_ (Fac33) [reply] -> _Discography_help:_WiM_ (Fac33) [preview] -> [info] -> _new_order_songography__v1.03_____29_11_03_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:17:24 -0500 From: "Nicolas LeBlanc" Subject: RE: (Fac33) Peter hook w/ hybrid in NY? Check the from of www.neworderonline.com All details right there.. And I'm still looking for somebody to get my free pass to give away (!).. check the forum for that... Sorry, I usually cut and paste to the list instead of pointing links, but there is too much stuff to cut and paste, plus you wouldn't get the poster they sent me! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ceremony@monkey.org [mailto:owner-ceremony@monkey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Sent: November 11, 2003 10:13 PM To: ceremony@monkey.org Subject: (Fac33) Peter hook w/ hybrid in NY? i have heard that hook will be doing a live PA w/ hybrid in NYC on nov 29th. i believe it is confirmed. anyone have any info about this? sorry if it has been mentioned before. Lisa ===== **NEXT EVENTS**Berlin...PvD [19/12] VANDIT NITE!!!!OMG!!!** *So precious you know this hate of mine exploded I'm so deranged you know, I will never be the same Tying yourself to me, stitch up my emptiness 'Cause you're the death of me, so precious loving the thrill* "Jeg har ingenting men jeg har alt nar jeg har deg...I HAVE NOTHING, BUT I HAVE EVERYTHING WHEN I HAVE YOU"- nothing but you [you know who you are ;) i love you!] ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk - ------- + Ceremony mailing list web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:13:00 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) [update] -> _international_2_____211103_ 'another day goes by and all i do is cry' [update] hey no'ers, long time no talk... (at least from me).. i've been doing a lot of reading of the digests, but haven't really commented on things.. after having been severely disappointed with the quality and selections on 'international' and 'retro', i decided to make my own.. anyways, as a byproduct of this process earlier this year,i placed several mp3 files up of alternate versions, mixes, and vinyl tracks for eventual inclusion on my compilation.. 'international 2'....[see digests from jan/feb/mar for more details].... i know several of you expressed interest earlier, and patiently waited...well due to lack of employment (fixed now), and resources.. i couldn't get the singles/vinyl/cds to finish it off.... well, the good news is we're almost there... seriously... i've finalised the tracklisting (and barring maybe 1 or 2 minor changes its set)...i'm in the process of listening to the tracks again, since it's been quite a while... if the vinyl re-mastering doesn't sound good, i'll go back and re-do some of them, hopefully without messing around with the equalization too much.. there are few people on this list that i'd worked out something with (the list owner, several of the major webmasters, and a few private people that i trade with first)... if its good for them, we can work out something for those that are interested... basically it will be a 4x80min cd set, spanning all their singles up until now.. the plan is have a cd-tree, and make it free for those that duplicate it..or for people to provide their own blanks.. NOTE ** please don't contact me yet, on how to obtain it, we'll get there...... ** THERE SHOULD BE NO MONEY/PROFIT for this project...i don't want to see it on ebay, or anywhere else being sold, because i check those also...and it will inhibit me in thinking about finishing the 20cd set of ALL the mixes, etc..(which is what 're-cycle' should have been).. i'll post the updated listing of the tracks next... later || | || | | ne gative 1 'all i get from you is shellshock' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:55 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) [boxset] -> _international_2__v0.4c_ [boxset] -> _international_2__v0.4c_ [boxset] i've changed these times: - -------------------------- + blue monday (live) + blue monday (sunkist commercial) + confusion (video version) + true faith-94 (eschreamer mix edit) + happy one + sub-culture (7" edit) + dubculture (7" edit) + added 'world in motion' (video mix) - - switched 'blue monday 95'(plutone dub) with (plutone edit) - - corrected time on 'way of life' - - switched 'mesh' and 'cries and whispers' - - replaced duplicate 'thieves like us(edit)' with 'lonesome tonight(7")' here's my updated listing: - ------------------------------------------------ new order box - international 2 (singles+b-sides) - ------------------------------------------------ [v0.4c] by -1 analysis - ------------------------------------------------ disc 01 the early singles - ------------------------------------------------ time (m:s) track(mix) note - ------------------------------------------------------------------- 4:34 1 ceremony (original) from the original 7" 4:27 2 procession from the original 7" 3:13 3 Dreams Never End album version (was released on us 10" promo) 5:33 4 Everything's Gone Green from the original 12" 5:23 5 Temptation from the uk 7" 3:26 6 Rocking Carol from the uk flexi 4:24 7 ecstasy (or only the lonely) album version (was released on us 10" promo) 4:34 8 Blue Monday (video version) from the uk video 3:54 9 Confusion (video version) from the uk video 3:54 10 Thieves Like Us (edit) from the uk 7" promo 3:55 11 Murder from the 12" 4:23 12 The Perfect Kiss (edit) from the 7" 3:29 13 Sub-culture (edit) from the 7" 4:19 14 Shellshock (edit) from the 7" 3:25 15 State of the Nation (edit) from the 7" 3:40 16 Bizarre Love Triangle (edit) from the 7" 4:03 17 Way Of Life from the us 12" promo 3:51 18 weirdo album version (was released on bz 12" promo) 4:10 19 True Faith (album edit) from us promo cd - ----- 79min:53sec disc 02 the latter singles - ------------------------------------------------------------------- 3:40 1 Touched by the Hand of God(edit) from the 7" 4:10 2 Blue Monday 1988 (7" version) from the 7" 3:08 3 Fine Time (7" version) from the 7" 3:31 4 Round & round (7") from the 7" 3:35 5 Run 2 from the uk 7" promo 4:20 6 Mr. Disco album version (was released on bz 12" promo) 3:56 7 World In Motion... (video mix) from the 'best of' japanese laserdisc 4:07 8 Regret (7 inch version) from the 7" 3:58 9 Ruined In A Day (radio edit) from the cd-single 3:39 10 World (the radio edit) from the cd-single 3:44 11 Spooky (radio edit) from the cd-single 4:28 12 True Faith-94 (radio edit) from the cd-single 4:04 13 1963 (95 arthur baker radio remix) from the cd-single 4:02 14 Let's Go album version (was released as us cds promo) 4:14 15 Blue Monday(hardfloor radio edit)from the uk cd-single promo 3:20 16 brutal (edit) from the uk cd-single promo 4:29 17 True Faith(Pink Noise Morel Edit)from the us cd-single promo 4:19 18 Crystal (radio edit) from the us cd-single 4:45 19 60mph (david kahne mix 2) from the us cd-single promo 3:55 20 Here to Stay (radio edit) from the uk cd-single - ----- 79min:24sec disc 03 the early b-sides - ------------------------------------------------------------------- 4:35 1 in a lonely place (7") from the 'ceremony' original 7" 4:00 2 Everything's Gone Green (7") from the procession 7" 4:37 3 truth album version (was released as us 10" promo) 3:00 4 Mesh from the original 12" 3:25 5 Cries and Whispers from the original 12" 4:42 6 hurt (7") from the uk 7" 3:42 7 Ode to joy from the uk flexi 5:19 8 Confusion Beats from the 12" 4:00 9 lonesome tonight(7") from the uk 7" promo 5:09 10 The Perfect Kiss (Instrumental) from the 7" 1:20 11 Perfect Pit from the 12" 3:36 12 Dub-vulture (edit) from the 7" 3:55 13 Thieves Like Us (instrumental edit) from the shellshock 7" 3:37 14 Shame of the Nation (edit) from the 7" 3:23 15 Bizarre Dub Triangle (edit) from the 7" 4:10 16 Touched by the Hand of Dub(edit) from the 7"/japanese 3" cds 4:17 17 Beach Buggy (7" edit) from the 7" 4:30 18 Don't Do It from the 7" 3:59 19 Best & marsh (7") from the 7" 3:43 20 MTO from the uk 7" promo - ------ 79min:23 sec (approx) disc 04 the latter b-sides+miscellaneous - ------------------------------------------------------------------- 5:08 1 World In Motion...(subbuteo dub) from the 12" 4:09 2 Vicious Circle (new order mix) from the cassette maxi-single 3:58 3 Ruined In A Day (single version) from the cd-single 4:04 4 true faith-94 (eschreamer mix edit) from cream mix cd 3:47 5 blue monday 95 (plutone radio edit or 7") from the uk cd-single promo 4:46 6 blue monday 95 (plutome dub) from the uk 12" promo 5:44 7 True Faith (philip steir edit) from the us cd-single promo 5:25 8 Behind Closed Doors from the 'crystal' cd-single 4:48 9 Sabotage from the '60 mph' cd-single 5:35 10 Player in the League from the 'here to stay' cd-single 3:09 11 confusion 2002 (arthur bakers edit) from the uk cd-single 0:32 12 Blue Monday [Sunkist commercial] from the 'new order story' laserdisc 3:58 13 blue monday(live top of the pops)from the 'new order story' laserdisc 2:31 14 Happy One from the 'Substance' laserdisc 3:54 15 bizarre love triangle (married to the mob) from the soundtrack 3:42 16 let's go (salvation) from the soundtrack 5:18 17 the perfect kiss (live vid edit) from the us 12" promo 9:55 18 the perfect kiss (live video) from the 'best of' japanese laserdisc - ---------------------- 80min:23 - ------------------------------------- transcription : -1 research : -1, neworder discography, worldinmotion.net, neworderonline.com layout : generic Designs text : textDesignersRepublic concept : no thanx : no, dl (c) : 2003 generic Designs - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:26:08 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) [reply] -> [update] -> _international_2_____211103_ hi mr mcgee, artwork is very vague right now, as i haven't had time to do it properly... i posted these earlier this year... just as a 'test'... i'm pretty much going to copy the fonts (does anyone know a good fascimile)..and the format of the original 'international'... for the tracklistings (which should be easy enough)... i don't know if 4 different sleeves need to be made..they will probably be numbered 1-2-3-4.. i would hate to have hold this project up due to the artwork...so if anyone RELIABLE wants to collaborate, or has a better idea... please contact me directly....... [art] ok no'ers, here's a couple of covers for it, based on the original.. it's a montage... it looks better if you see it from a distance.. can you tell which singles are in pictures? (large) http://negative1-586.tripod.com/int2/neworder_internationalMons.jpg (small) http://negative1-586.tripod.com/int2/neworder_internationalMons2.jpg later | || | | || | | ne gativ e 1 - -----Original Message----- From: Brian McGee [mailto:Brian.McGee@Sentrio.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:08 AM To: '-1' Subject: RE: (Fac33) [update] -> _international_2_____211103_ Any thoughts on artwork/CD labels yet? Sounds like an interesting project - but for something like this, the presentation is also quite important. Have you any ideas? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:36 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) _the_new_new_order_album_ hi mr myrhage, well, back in february of 2001, (maybe even slightly earlier)... some people heard demos of 'crystal' and '60mph'.....[which was before the official august release that year]... i posted some reviews, and all the lyrics around feb 21.... of course, some people didn't believe it was real, and wanted proof, etc......so some editted mp3 files were posted...that caused some problems...so they were deleted.. well by that point it was too late to retract them, and several copies started floating around the internet.. if you wait until near the time of the release, you will find plenty of promos available, at which time you might hear the songs.. i'm not sure people discussing or sharing the new songs would be that great idea, especially after what happened last time.. (at least for me)... and, no, i don't have anything new by them...nor am i implying i've heard anything yet... later | | | || | | || ne gativ e 1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:43:28 +0200 From: "Erik Myrhage" Subject: (Fac33) New album >I know Iīve asked this before. But has anyone on the list heard any new >songs? The band should by now be quite far in the writing process and there >should be some finished songs. >We have some members on the list that are close friends to the band... If >youīve heard anything of the new music... is it good and how does it sound? >I know itīs supposed to sound a lot like Joy Division... But in what way? >Does anyone know when itīs expected to be released. And where to find >soundclips... ;) >/E ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:50:45 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) [reply] -> _Discography_help:_WiM_ 'in motion' [reply] hey t, >The "correction" would look like (changes marked with a '$'): >--- >still need to check -> $ 12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293) i have the US 12" also, but have not checked the times... >CD5: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FACD 293) >$ 4:14 World in Motion... (the b-side) i have the japanese version, and it has this shorter version.. the us cd-single has the longer 4:48 version... >------------- > 12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293R) > 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) >$ 4:13 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) > 5:52 World in Motion... (carabinieri mix) >$ 4:12 World in Motion... (no alla violenzia mix) - --------------------------------- here are my times: - ------------------- verified: 4m:13.2s World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) [cold ending-no fadeout] 4m:10.1s World in Motion... (no alla violenzia mix) well, according to my technics turntable.. later | | || || || ne gative 1 'cause we've got the world' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:45:18 -0600 From: "-1" Subject: (Fac33) [preview] -> [info] -> _new_order_songography__v1.03_____29_11_03_ 'the sweeter the pain' hey no'ers, ok i've updated the list again.. not too many new things.. and i still need to get the times for the 511/finsbury dvd.. updates : + 'soundtrack' track/time/format + 'vietnam' track/time/format + 'pumped full of drugs' dvd live tracks/times later | || || || ||||| ne gativ e 1 'until your heart stops beating' ------------------------------ End of ceremony-digest V2003 #57 ******************************** ------- + For information on subscribing/unsubscribing and the digest archives, + see the Ceremony web page: http://www.monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ + To talk to a person, send mail to .